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Gagging law: we won the argument but lost the vote

January 22nd, 2014 by

It’s a setback: MPs voted today to reverse some of the hardest-won and most important changes made to the gagging law in the House of Lords.

But it’s not over yet. In a process known as ping pong the Bill now goes back to the Lords, where they’ll have the option to override MPs and make them vote again. So, all is still to play for.

Here’s how the votes went in the Commons:

  • On the vote to reject Lords’ changes to how much staff costs count towards total spending limits, amendment 108: 310 MPs voted to reject the changes, & 278 MPs to accept them into the Bill
  • On the vote to reject Lords’ changes to the scope of what activity counts towards constituency spending limits, amendments 26 and 27: 314 MPs voted to reject the changes, & 274 MPs to accept them

But in better news, some other improvements were accepted by the Commons today, like doubling the threshold spend before you have to register with the regulator, and reducing the period when this law will apply from 12 months to 7.5 months. That’s a direct result of all our pressure.

So now we just need to recoup our big losses.

Here is how all MPs voted on the big amendments. 108 (staff costs) and 26 (constituency limits). Type your MP’s name or the name of your constituency in the box to filter the list. (We wanted MPs to vote no to both 108 and 26).

MP Constituency Party Amendment 26 Amendment 108
Naomi Long Belfast East Alliance no no
Nigel Adams Selby and Ainsty Con aye aye
Adam Afriyie Windsor Con aye aye
Peter Aldous Waveney Con aye aye
David Amess Southend West Con aye aye
Stuart Andrew Pudsey Con aye aye
James Arbuthnot North East Hampshire Con aye aye
Richard Bacon South Norfolk Con aye aye
Steven Baker Wycombe Con aye aye
Tony Baldry Banbury Con aye aye
Harriett Baldwin West Worcestershire Con aye aye
Stephen Barclay North East Cambridgeshire Con aye aye
Gregory Barker Bexhill and Battle Con aye aye
John Baron Basildon and Billericay Con aye aye
Gavin Barwell Croydon Central Con aye aye
Guto Bebb Aberconwy Con aye aye
Henry Bellingham North West Norfolk Con aye aye
Richard Benyon Newbury Con aye aye
Paul Beresford Mole Valley Con aye aye
Jake Berry Rossendale and Darwen Con aye aye
Andrew Bingham High Peak Con aye aye
Brian Binley Northampton South Con aye aye
Bob Blackman Harrow East Con aye aye
Nicola Blackwood Oxford West and Abingdon Con aye aye
Crispin Blunt Reigate Con aye aye
Nicholas Boles Grantham and Stamford Con aye aye
Peter Bone Wellingborough Con aye aye
Peter Bottomley Worthing West Con aye aye
Karen Bradley Staffordshire Moorlands Con aye aye
Graham Brady Altrincham and Sale West Con aye aye
Angie Bray Ealing Central and Acton Con aye aye
Julian Brazier Canterbury Con aye aye
Steve Brine Winchester Con aye aye
James Brokenshire Old Bexley and Sidcup Con aye aye
Fiona Bruce Congleton Con aye aye
Robert Buckland South Swindon Con aye aye
Conor Burns Bournemouth West Con aye aye
Simon Burns Chelmsford Con aye aye
David Burrowes Enfield, Southgate Con aye aye
Alistair Burt North East Bedfordshire Con aye aye
Dan Byles North Warwickshire Con aye aye
Alun Cairns Vale of Glamorgan Con aye aye
Neil Carmichael Stroud Con aye aye
William Cash Stone Con aye aye
Rehman Chishti Gillingham and Rainham Con aye aye
James Clappison Hertsmere Con aye aye
Greg Clark Tunbridge Wells Con aye aye
Kenneth Clarke Rushcliffe Con aye aye
Geoffrey Clifton-Brown The Cotswolds Con aye aye
Therese Coffey Suffolk Coastal Con aye aye
Damian Collins Folkestone and Hythe Con aye aye
Oliver Colvile Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport Con aye aye
Geoffrey Cox Torridge and West Devon Con aye aye
Stephen Crabb Preseli Pembrokeshire Con aye aye
David Davies Monmouth Con aye aye
Glyn Davies Montgomeryshire Con aye aye
Nick de Bois Enfield North Con aye aye
Caroline Dinenage Gosport Con aye aye
Jonathan Djanogly Huntingdon Con aye aye
Stephen Dorrell Charnwood Con aye aye
Nadine Dorries Mid Bedfordshire Con aye aye
Jackie Doyle-Price Thurrock Con aye aye
Richard Drax South Dorset Con aye aye
James Duddridge Rochford and Southend East Con aye aye
Alan Duncan Rutland and Melton Con aye aye
Iain Duncan Smith Chingford and Woodford Green Con aye aye
Philip Dunne Ludlow Con aye aye
Michael Ellis Northampton North Con aye aye
Jane Ellison Battersea Con aye aye
Tobias Ellwood Bournemouth East Con aye aye
Charlie Elphicke Dover Con aye aye
George Eustice Camborne and Redruth Con aye aye
Graham Evans Weaver Vale Con aye aye
Jonathan Evans Cardiff North Con aye aye
Nigel Evans Ribble Valley Con aye aye
David Evennett Bexleyheath and Crayford Con aye aye
Michael Fabricant Lichfield Con aye aye
Michael Fallon Sevenoaks Con aye aye
Mark Field Cities of London and Westminster Con aye aye
Liam Fox North Somerset Con aye aye
Mark Francois Rayleigh and Wickford Con aye aye
George Freeman Mid Norfolk Con aye aye
Mike Freer Finchley and Golders Green Con aye aye
Richard Fuller Bedford Con aye aye
Edward Garnier Harborough Con aye aye
Mark Garnier Wyre Forest Con aye aye
David Gauke South West Hertfordshire Con aye aye
Nick Gibb Bognor Regis and Littlehampton Con aye aye
Cheryl Gillan Chesham and Amersham Con aye aye
John Glen Salisbury Con aye aye
Robert Goodwill Scarborough and Whitby Con aye aye
Michael Gove Surrey Heath Con aye aye
Richard Graham Gloucester Con aye aye
Helen Grant Maidstone and The Weald Con aye aye
James Gray North Wiltshire Con aye aye
Chris Grayling Epsom and Ewell Con aye aye
Damian Green Ashford Con aye aye
Dominic Grieve Beaconsfield Con aye aye
Andrew Griffiths Burton Con aye aye
Ben Gummer Ipswich Con aye aye
Sam Gyimah East Surrey Con aye tellaye
Robert Halfon Harlow Con aye aye
Philip Hammond Runnymede and Weybridge Con aye aye
Stephen Hammond Wimbledon Con aye aye
Matthew Hancock West Suffolk Con aye aye
Greg Hands Chelsea and Fulham Con aye aye
Mark Harper Forest of Dean Con aye aye
Richard Harrington Watford Con aye aye
Rebecca Harris Castle Point Con aye aye
Simon Hart Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire Con aye aye
John Hayes South Holland and The Deepings Con aye aye
Oliver Heald North East Hertfordshire Con aye aye
Chris Heaton-Harris Daventry Con aye aye
Gordon Henderson Sittingbourne and Sheppey Con aye aye
Charles Hendry Wealden Con aye aye
Nick Herbert Arundel and South Downs Con aye aye
Damian Hinds East Hampshire Con aye aye
Mark Hoban Fareham Con aye aye
George Hollingbery Meon Valley Con aye aye
Philip Hollobone Kettering Con aye aye
Kris Hopkins Keighley Con aye aye
Gerald Howarth Aldershot Con aye aye
John Howell Henley Con aye aye
Jeremy Hunt South West Surrey Con aye aye
Nick Hurd Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner Con aye aye
Stewart Jackson Peterborough Con aye aye
Margot James Stourbridge Con aye aye
Sajid Javid Bromsgrove Con aye aye
Bernard Jenkin Harwich and North Essex Con aye aye
Gareth Johnson Dartford Con aye aye
Jo Johnson Orpington Con aye aye
Andrew Jones Harrogate and Knaresborough Con aye aye
David Jones Clwyd West Con aye aye
Marcus Jones Nuneaton Con aye aye
Daniel Kawczynski Shrewsbury and Atcham Con aye aye
Chris Kelly Dudley South Con aye aye
Simon Kirby Brighton, Kemptown Con aye aye
Greg Knight East Yorkshire Con aye aye
Kwasi Kwarteng Spelthorne Con aye aye
Mark Lancaster Milton Keynes North Con aye aye
Andrew Lansley South Cambridgeshire Con aye aye
Pauline Latham Mid Derbyshire Con aye aye
Andrea Leadsom South Northamptonshire Con aye aye
Jessica Lee Erewash Con aye aye
Phillip Lee Bracknell Con aye aye
Jeremy Lefroy Stafford Con aye aye
Oliver Letwin West Dorset Con aye aye
Brandon Lewis Great Yarmouth Con aye aye
Julian Lewis New Forest East Con aye aye
Ian Liddell-Grainger Bridgwater and West Somerset Con aye aye
David Lidington Aylesbury Con aye aye
Peter Lilley Hitchin and Harpenden Con aye aye
Jonathan Lord Woking Con aye aye
Tim Loughton East Worthing and Shoreham Con aye aye
Peter Luff Mid Worcestershire Con aye aye
Karen Lumley Redditch Con aye aye
Mary Macleod Brentford and Isleworth Con aye aye
Francis Maude Horsham Con aye aye
Theresa May Maidenhead Con aye aye
Jason McCartney Colne Valley Con aye aye
Karl McCartney Lincoln Con aye aye
Anne McIntosh Thirsk and Malton Con aye aye
Patrick McLoughlin Derbyshire Dales Con aye aye
Stephen McPartland Stevenage Con aye aye
Esther McVey Wirral West Con aye aye
Mark Menzies Fylde Con aye aye
Stephen Metcalfe South Basildon and East Thurrock Con aye aye
Maria Miller Basingstoke Con aye aye
Nigel Mills Amber Valley Con aye aye
Anne Milton Guildford Con aye aye
Andrew Mitchell Sutton Coldfield Con aye aye
Penny Mordaunt Portsmouth North Con aye aye
Nicky Morgan Loughborough Con aye aye
Anne-Marie Morris Newton Abbot Con aye aye
David Morris Morecambe and Lunesdale Con aye aye
James Morris Halesowen and Rowley Regis Con aye aye
Stephen Mosley City of Chester Con aye aye
David Mowat Warrington South Con aye aye
David Mundell Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale Con aye aye
Sheryll Murray South East Cornwall Con aye aye
Andrew Murrison South West Wiltshire Con aye aye
Bob Neill Bromley and Chislehurst Con aye aye
Brooks Newmark Braintree Con aye aye
Sarah Newton Truro and Falmouth Con aye aye
Caroline Nokes Romsey and Southampton North Con aye aye
Jesse Norman Hereford and South Herefordshire Con aye aye
Stephen O’Brien Eddisbury Con aye aye
Matthew Offord Hendon Con aye aye
Eric Ollerenshaw Lancaster and Fleetwood Con aye aye
Guy Opperman Hexham Con aye aye
Richard Ottaway Croydon South Con aye aye
James Paice South East Cambridgeshire Con aye aye
Neil Parish Tiverton and Honiton Con aye aye
Priti Patel Witham Con aye aye
Mark Pawsey Rugby Con aye aye
Michael Penning Hemel Hempstead Con aye aye
John Penrose Weston-Super-Mare Con aye aye
Andrew Percy Brigg and Goole Con aye aye
Claire Perry Devizes Con tellaye aye
Stephen Phillips Sleaford and North Hykeham Con aye aye
Eric Pickles Brentwood and Ongar Con aye aye
Christopher Pincher Tamworth Con aye aye
Mark Prisk Hertford and Stortford Con aye aye
Mark Pritchard The Wrekin Con aye aye
Dominic Raab Esher and Walton Con aye aye
John Randall Uxbridge and South Ruislip Con aye aye
Mark Reckless Rochester and Strood Con aye aye
John Redwood Wokingham Con aye aye
Jacob Rees-Mogg North East Somerset Con aye aye
Simon Reevell Dewsbury Con aye aye
Malcolm Rifkind Kensington Con aye aye
Andrew Robathan South Leicestershire Con aye aye
Laurence Robertson Tewkesbury Con aye aye
Andrew Rosindell Romford Con aye aye
Amber Rudd Hastings and Rye Con aye aye
David Ruffley Bury St Edmunds Con aye aye
David Rutley Macclesfield Con aye aye
Laura Sandys South Thanet Con aye aye
Lee Scott Ilford North Con aye aye
Andrew Selous South West Bedfordshire Con aye aye
Grant Shapps Welwyn Hatfield Con aye aye
Alok Sharma Reading West Con aye aye
Alec Shelbrooke Elmet and Rothwell Con aye aye
Mark Simmonds Boston and Skegness Con aye aye
Keith Simpson Broadland Con aye aye
Chris Skidmore Kingswood Con aye aye
Chloe Smith Norwich North Con aye aye
Henry Smith Crawley Con aye aye
Julian Smith Skipton and Ripon Con aye aye
Nicholas Soames Mid Sussex Con aye aye
Anna Soubry Broxtowe Con aye aye
Mark Spencer Sherwood Con aye aye
Sir John Stanley Tonbridge and Malling Con aye aye
Andrew Stephenson Pendle Con aye aye
John Stevenson Carlisle Con aye aye
Bob Stewart Beckenham Con aye aye
Iain Stewart Milton Keynes South Con aye aye
Rory Stewart Penrith and The Border Con aye aye
Gary Streeter South West Devon Con aye aye
Mel Stride Central Devon Con aye aye
Graham Stuart Beverley and Holderness Con aye aye
Julian Sturdy York Outer Con aye aye
Desmond Swayne New Forest West Con aye aye
Hugo Swire East Devon Con aye aye
Robert Syms Poole Con aye aye
Peter Tapsell Louth and Horncastle Con aye aye
Edward Timpson Crewe and Nantwich Con aye aye
Justin Tomlinson North Swindon Con aye aye
David Tredinnick Bosworth Con aye aye
Elizabeth Truss South West Norfolk Con aye aye
Andrew Tyrie Chichester Con aye aye
Paul Uppal Wolverhampton South West Con aye aye
Edward Vaizey Wantage Con aye aye
Shailesh Vara North West Cambridgeshire Con aye aye
Martin Vickers Cleethorpes Con aye aye
Charles Walker Broxbourne Con aye aye
Robin Walker Worcester Con aye aye
Ben Wallace Wyre and Preston North Con aye aye
Robert Walter North Dorset Con aye aye
Angela Watkinson Hornchurch and Upminster Con aye aye
Mike Weatherley Hove Con aye aye
James Wharton Stockton South Con aye aye
Heather Wheeler South Derbyshire Con aye aye
Craig Whittaker Calder Valley Con aye aye
John Whittingdale Maldon Con aye aye
Bill Wiggin North Herefordshire Con aye aye
David Willetts Havant Con aye aye
Gavin Williamson South Staffordshire Con aye aye
Rob Wilson Reading East Con aye aye
Sarah Wollaston Totnes Con aye aye
Jeremy Wright Kenilworth and Southam Con aye aye
Tim Yeo South Suffolk Con aye aye
George Young North West Hampshire Con aye aye
Nadhim Zahawi Stratford-on-Avon Con aye aye
Christopher Chope Christchurch Con no absent
Philip Davies Shipley Con no no
David Davis Haltemprice and Howden Con no no
Zac Goldsmith Richmond Park Con no no
Charlotte Leslie Bristol North West Con no no
Anne Main St Albans Con no no
David Nuttall Bury North Con no no
Chris White Warwick and Leamington Con no no
Andrew Bridgen North West Leicestershire Con absent absent
Aidan Burley Cannock Chase Con absent absent
David Cameron Witney Con absent absent
Douglas Carswell Clacton Con absent absent
Tracey Crouch Chatham and Aylesford Con absent absent
Lorraine Fullbrook South Ribble Con absent absent
Roger Gale North Thanet Con absent absent
Justine Greening Putney Con absent absent
William Hague Richmond (Yorks) Con absent absent
Alan Haselhurst Saffron Walden Con absent absent
Adam Holloway Gravesham Con absent absent
Eleanor Laing Epping Forest Con absent absent
Edward Leigh Gainsborough Con absent absent
Jack Lopresti Filton and Bradley Stoke Con absent absent
Paul Maynard Blackpool North and Cleveleys Con absent absent
Patrick Mercer Newark Con absent absent
George Osborne Tatton Con absent absent
Owen Paterson North Shropshire Con absent absent
Daniel Poulter Central Suffolk and North Ipswich Con absent absent
Hugh Robertson Faversham and Mid Kent Con absent absent
Richard Shepherd Aldridge-Brownhills Con absent absent
Caroline Spelman Meriden Con absent absent
Andrew Turner Isle of Wight Con absent aye
Theresa Villiers Chipping Barnet Con absent absent
Nigel Dodds Belfast North DUP no no
Ian Paisley Jnr North Antrim DUP no no
Jim Shannon Strangford DUP no no
David Simpson Upper Bann DUP no no
Sammy Wilson East Antrim DUP no no
Gregory Campbell East Londonderry DUP absent absent
Jeffrey M Donaldson Lagan Valley DUP absent absent
William McCrea South Antrim DUP absent absent
Caroline Lucas Brighton, Pavilion Green no no
Lady Hermon North Down Ind no no
Diane Abbott Hackney North and Stoke Newington Lab no no
Debbie Abrahams Oldham East and Saddleworth Lab no no
Bob Ainsworth Coventry North East Lab no no
Douglas Alexander Paisley and Renfrewshire South Lab no no
Heidi Alexander Lewisham East Lab no no
Rushanara Ali Bethnal Green and Bow Lab no no
Graham Allen Nottingham North Lab no no
David Anderson Blaydon Lab no no
Jonathan Ashworth Leicester South Lab no no
Ian Austin Dudley North Lab no no
Adrian Bailey West Bromwich West Lab no no
William Bain Glasgow North East Lab no no
Edward Balls Morley and Outwood Lab no no
Gordon Banks Ochil and South Perthshire Lab no no
Kevin Barron Rother Valley Lab no no
Hugh Bayley York Central Lab no no
Anne Begg Aberdeen South Lab no no
Hilary Benn Leeds Central Lab no no
Joe Benton Bootle Lab no no
Luciana Berger Liverpool, Wavertree Lab no no
Clive Betts Sheffield South East Lab no no
Roberta Blackman-Woods City of Durham Lab no no
Hazel Blears Salford and Eccles Lab no no
Tom Blenkinsop Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland Lab no no
Paul Blomfield Sheffield Central Lab no no
David Blunkett Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough Lab no no
Ben Bradshaw Exeter Lab no no
Kevin Brennan Cardiff West Lab no no
Lyn Brown West Ham Lab no no
Nick Brown Newcastle upon Tyne East Lab no no
Russell Brown Dumfries and Galloway Lab no no
Chris Bryant Rhondda Lab no no
Karen Buck Westminster North Lab no no
Richard Burden Birmingham, Northfield Lab no no
Andy Burnham Leigh Lab no no
Liam Byrne Birmingham, Hodge Hill Lab no no
Alan Campbell Tynemouth Lab no no
Ronnie Campbell Blyth Valley Lab no no
Sarah Champion Rotherham Lab no no
Jenny Chapman Darlington Lab no no
Katy Clark North Ayrshire and Arran Lab no no
Tom Clarke Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill Lab no no
Ann Clwyd Cynon Valley Lab no no
Vernon Coaker Gedling Lab no no
Ann Coffey Stockport Lab no no
Michael Connarty Linlithgow and East Falkirk Lab no no
Rosie Cooper West Lancashire Lab no no
Yvette Cooper Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford Lab no no
Jeremy Corbyn Islington North Lab no no
David Crausby Bolton North East Lab no no
Mary Creagh Wakefield Lab no no
Stella Creasy Walthamstow Lab no no
Jon Cruddas Dagenham and Rainham Lab no no
John Cryer Leyton and Wanstead Lab no no
Alex Cunningham Stockton North Lab no no
Jim Cunningham Coventry South Lab no no
Tony Cunningham Workington Lab no no
Margaret Curran Glasgow East Lab no no
Nicholas Dakin Scunthorpe Lab no no
Simon Danczuk Rochdale Lab no no
Alistair Darling Edinburgh South West Lab no no
Wayne David Caerphilly Lab no no
Ian Davidson Glasgow South West Lab no no
Geraint Davies Swansea West Lab no no
Gloria De Piero Ashfield Lab no no
John Denham Southampton, Itchen Lab no no
Jim Dobbin Heywood and Middleton Lab no no
Frank Dobson Holborn and St Pancras Lab no no
Thomas Docherty Dunfermline and West Fife Lab no no
Brian H Donohoe Central Ayrshire Lab no no
Frank Doran Aberdeen North Lab no no
Stephen Doughty Cardiff South and Penarth Lab no no
Jim Dowd Lewisham West and Penge Lab no no
Gemma Doyle West Dunbartonshire Lab no no
Jack Dromey Birmingham, Erdington Lab no no
Angela Eagle Wallasey Lab no no
Maria Eagle Garston and Halewood Lab no no
Clive Efford Eltham Lab no no
Julie Elliott Sunderland Central Lab no no
Louise Ellman Liverpool, Riverside Lab no no
Natascha Engel North East Derbyshire Lab no no
Bill Esterson Sefton Central Lab no no
Chris Evans Islwyn Lab no no
Paul Farrelly Newcastle-under-Lyme Lab no no
Frank Field Birkenhead Lab no no
Jim Fitzpatrick Poplar and Limehouse Lab no no
Robert Flello Stoke-on-Trent South Lab no no
Caroline Flint Don Valley Lab no no
Paul Flynn Newport West Lab no no
Yvonne Fovargue Makerfield Lab no no
Hywel Francis Aberavon Lab no no
Mike Gapes Ilford South Lab no no
Barry Gardiner Brent North Lab no no
Sheila Gilmore Edinburgh East Lab no no
Pat Glass North West Durham Lab no no
Mary Glindon North Tyneside Lab no no
Roger Godsiff Birmingham, Hall Green Lab no no
Helen Goodman Bishop Auckland Lab no no
Tom Greatrex Rutherglen and Hamilton West Lab no no
Kate Green Stretford and Urmston Lab no no
Lilian Greenwood Nottingham South Lab no absent
Nia Griffith Llanelli Lab no no
Andrew Gwynne Denton and Reddish Lab no no
Peter Hain Neath Lab no no
David Hamilton Midlothian Lab no no
Fabian Hamilton Leeds North East Lab no no
David Hanson Delyn Lab no no
Harriet Harman Camberwell and Peckham Lab no no
Tom Harris Glasgow South Lab no no
Dai Havard Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney Lab no no
John Healey Wentworth and Dearne Lab no no
Stephen Hepburn Jarrow Lab no no
David Heyes Ashton-under-Lyne Lab no no
Meg Hillier Hackney South and Shoreditch Lab no no
Julie Hilling Bolton West Lab tellno tellno
Margaret Hodge Barking Lab no no
Sharon Hodgson Washington and Sunderland West Lab no no
Kate Hoey Vauxhall Lab no no
Jimmy Hood Lanark and Hamilton East Lab no no
George Howarth Knowsley Lab no no
Tristram Hunt Stoke-on-Trent Central Lab no no
Huw Irranca-Davies Ogmore Lab no no
Glenda Jackson Hampstead and Kilburn Lab no no
Siân James Swansea East Lab no no
Cathy Jamieson Kilmarnock and Loudoun Lab no no
Dan Jarvis Barnsley Central Lab no no
Alan Johnson Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle Lab no no
Diana Johnson Kingston upon Hull North Lab no no
Graham Jones Hyndburn Lab no no
Kevan Jones North Durham Lab no no
Susan Elan Jones Clwyd South Lab no no
Tessa Jowell Dulwich and West Norwood Lab no no
Gerald Kaufman Manchester, Gorton Lab no no
Barbara Keeley Worsley and Eccles South Lab no no
Liz Kendall Leicester West Lab no no
Sadiq Khan Tooting Lab no no
David Lammy Tottenham Lab no no
Ian Lavery Wansbeck Lab no no
Mark Lazarowicz Edinburgh North and Leith Lab no no
Christopher Leslie Nottingham East Lab no no
Emma Lewell-Buck South Shields Lab no no
Ivan Lewis Bury South Lab no no
Andrew Love Edmonton Lab no no
Ian Lucas Wrexham Lab no no
Fiona Mactaggart Slough Lab no no
Shabana Mahmood Birmingham, Ladywood Lab no no
Seema Malhotra Feltham and Heston Lab no no
John Mann Bassetlaw Lab no no
Gordon Marsden Blackpool South Lab no no
Stephen McCabe Birmingham, Selly Oak Lab no no
Michael McCann East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow Lab no no
Kerry McCarthy Bristol East Lab no no
Gregg McClymont Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East Lab no no
Siobhain McDonagh Mitcham and Morden Lab no no
Andrew McDonald Middlesbrough Lab no no
John McDonnell Hayes and Harlington Lab no no
Pat McFadden Wolverhampton South East Lab no no
Alison McGovern Wirral South Lab no no
Jim McGovern Dundee West Lab no no
Anne McGuire Stirling Lab no no
Ann McKechin Glasgow North Lab no no
Iain McKenzie Inverclyde Lab no no
Catherine McKinnell Newcastle upon Tyne North Lab no no
Michael Meacher Oldham West and Royton Lab no no
Alan Meale Mansfield Lab no no
Ian Mearns Gateshead Lab no no
Edward Miliband Doncaster North Lab no no
Andrew Miller Ellesmere Port and Neston Lab no no
Austin Mitchell Great Grimsby Lab no no
Madeleine Moon Bridgend Lab no no
Jessica Morden Newport East Lab no no
Graeme Morrice Livingston Lab no no
Grahame Morris Easington Lab no no
George Mudie Leeds East Lab no no
Meg Munn Sheffield, Heeley Lab no no
Jim Murphy East Renfrewshire Lab no no
Paul Murphy Torfaen Lab no no
Ian Murray Edinburgh South Lab no no
Lisa Nandy Wigan Lab no no
Pamela Nash Airdrie and Shotts Lab no no
Fiona O’Donnell East Lothian Lab no no
Chi Onwurah Newcastle upon Tyne Central Lab no no
Sandra Osborne Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock Lab no no
Albert Owen Ynys Môn Lab no no
Teresa Pearce Erith and Thamesmead Lab no no
Bridget Phillipson Houghton and Sunderland South Lab no no
Stephen Pound Ealing North Lab no no
Lucy Powell Manchester Central Lab no no
Yasmin Qureshi Bolton South East Lab no no
Nick Raynsford Greenwich and Woolwich Lab no no
Jamie Reed Copeland Lab no no
Steve Reed Croydon North Lab no no
Rachel Reeves Leeds West Lab no no
Emma Reynolds Wolverhampton North East Lab no no
Linda Riordan Halifax Lab no no
John Robertson Glasgow North West Lab no no
Geoffrey Robinson Coventry North West Lab no no
Steve Rotheram Liverpool, Walton Lab no no
Lindsay Roy Glenrothes Lab no no
Chris Ruane Vale of Clwyd Lab no no
Joan Ruddock Lewisham, Deptford Lab no no
Anas Sarwar Glasgow Central Lab no no
Andy Sawford Corby Lab no no
Alison Seabeck Plymouth, Moor View Lab no no
Virendra Sharma Ealing, Southall Lab no no
Barry Sheerman Huddersfield Lab no no
Jim Sheridan Paisley and Renfrewshire North Lab no no
Gavin Shuker Luton South Lab no no
Dennis Skinner Bolsover Lab no no
Andy Slaughter Hammersmith Lab no no
Andrew Smith Oxford East Lab no no
Angela Smith Penistone and Stocksbridge Lab no no
Nick Smith Blaenau Gwent Lab no no
Owen Smith Pontypridd Lab no no
John Spellar Warley Lab no no
Jack Straw Blackburn Lab no no
Graham Stringer Blackley and Broughton Lab no no
Gisela Stuart Birmingham, Edgbaston Lab no no
Gerry Sutcliffe Bradford South Lab no no
Mark Tami Alyn and Deeside Lab no no
Gareth Thomas Harrow West Lab no no
Emily Thornberry Islington South and Finsbury Lab no no
Stephen Timms East Ham Lab no no
Jon Trickett Hemsworth Lab no no
Karl Turner Kingston upon Hull East Lab no no
Derek Twigg Halton Lab no no
Stephen Twigg Liverpool, West Derby Lab no no
Chuka Umunna Streatham Lab no no
Keith Vaz Leicester East Lab no no
Valerie Vaz Walsall South Lab no no
Joan Walley Stoke-on-Trent North Lab no no
Tom Watson West Bromwich East Lab no no
Dave Watts St Helens North Lab no no
Alan Whitehead Southampton, Test Lab no no
Chris Williamson Derby North Lab no no
Phil Wilson Sedgefield Lab tellno tellno
Rosie Winterton Doncaster Central Lab no no
Mike Wood Batley and Spen Lab no no
John Woodcock Barrow and Furness Lab no no
Shaun Woodward St Helens South and Whiston Lab no no
David Wright Telford Lab no no
Margaret Beckett Derby South Lab absent absent
Gordon Brown Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath Lab absent absent
Martin Caton Gower Lab absent absent
Michael Dugher Barnsley East Lab absent absent
Mark Hendrick Preston Lab absent absent
Kelvin Hopkins Luton North Lab absent absent
Lindsay Hoyle Chorley Lab absent absent
Helen Jones Warrington North Lab absent absent
Eric Joyce Falkirk Lab absent absent
Khalid Mahmood Birmingham, Perry Barr Lab absent absent
Toby Perkins Chesterfield Lab absent absent
Dawn Primarolo Bristol South Lab absent absent
Jonathan Reynolds Stalybridge and Hyde Lab absent absent
Frank Roy Motherwell and Wishaw Lab absent absent
David Winnick Walsall North Lab absent absent
Iain Wright Hartlepool Lab absent absent
Norman Baker Lewes LDem aye aye
Alan Beith Berwick-upon-Tweed LDem aye aye
Gordon Birtwistle Burnley LDem aye aye
Tom Brake Carshalton and Wallington LDem aye aye
Annette Brooke Mid Dorset and North Poole LDem aye aye
Jeremy Browne Taunton Deane LDem aye aye
Malcolm Bruce Gordon LDem aye aye
Paul Burstow Sutton and Cheam LDem aye aye
Vincent Cable Twickenham LDem aye aye
Menzies Campbell North East Fife LDem aye aye
Michael Crockart Edinburgh West LDem aye no
Tim Farron Westmorland and Lonsdale LDem aye aye
Lynne Featherstone Hornsey and Wood Green LDem aye aye
Don Foster Bath LDem aye aye
Stephen Gilbert St Austell and Newquay LDem aye no
Duncan Hames Chippenham LDem aye aye
Nick Harvey North Devon LDem aye aye
David Heath Somerton and Frome LDem aye aye
John Hemming Birmingham, Yardley LDem aye aye
Martin Horwood Cheltenham LDem aye no
Simon Hughes Bermondsey and Old Southwark LDem aye aye
Mark Hunter Cheadle LDem tellaye tellaye
Julian Huppert Cambridge LDem aye no
Norman Lamb North Norfolk LDem aye aye
David Laws Yeovil LDem aye aye
Stephen Lloyd Eastbourne LDem aye aye
Michael Moore Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk LDem aye aye
Tessa Munt Wells LDem aye aye
John Pugh Southport LDem aye aye
Alan Reid Argyll and Bute LDem aye no
Dan Rogerson North Cornwall LDem aye aye
Bob Russell Colchester LDem aye aye
Robert Smith West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine LDem aye aye
Andrew Stunell Hazel Grove LDem aye aye
Ian Swales Redcar LDem aye aye
Sarah Teather Brent Central LDem aye aye
Mike Thornton Eastleigh LDem aye aye
John Thurso Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross LDem aye aye
David Ward Bradford East LDem aye aye
Steve Webb Thornbury and Yate LDem aye aye
Stephen Williams Bristol West LDem aye aye
Jennifer Willott Cardiff Central LDem aye aye
Simon Wright Norwich South LDem aye aye
Andrew George St Ives LDem no no
Mike Hancock Portsmouth South LDem no absent
Greg Mulholland Leeds North West LDem no no
Adrian Sanders Torbay LDem no no
Mark Williams Ceredigion LDem no no
Roger Williams Brecon and Radnorshire LDem no no
Danny Alexander Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey LDem absent absent
Lorely Burt Solihull LDem absent absent
Alistair Carmichael Orkney and Shetland LDem absent absent
Nicholas Clegg Sheffield, Hallam LDem absent absent
Edward Davey Kingston and Surbiton LDem absent absent
Charles Kennedy Ross, Skye and Lochaber LDem absent absent
John Leech Manchester, Withington LDem absent absent
Jo Swinson East Dunbartonshire LDem absent absent
Jonathan Edwards Carmarthen East and Dinefwr PC no no
Elfyn Llwyd Dwyfor Meirionnydd PC no no
Hywel Williams Arfon PC no no
George Galloway Bradford West Res no no
Mark Durkan Foyle SDLP no no
Alasdair McDonnell Belfast South SDLP no no
Margaret Ritchie South Down SDLP no no
Pat Doherty West Tyrone SF absent absent
Michelle Gildernew Fermanagh and South Tyrone SF absent absent
Paul Maskey Belfast West SF absent absent
Francie Molloy Mid Ulster SF absent absent
Conor Murphy Newry and Armagh SF absent absent
Stewart Hosie Dundee East SNP no no
Angus MacNeil Na h-Eileanan an Iar SNP no no
Angus Robertson Moray SNP no no
Michael Weir Angus SNP no no
Eilidh Whiteford Banff and Buchan SNP no no
Pete Wishart Perth and North Perthshire SNP no no
John Bercow Buckingham Speaker absent absent


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  • Climbing Rose

    how do we find out how our MP voted ?

  • Steve

    i think that’s published tomorrow morning.

  • Steve

    It’s no wonder they get away with it when most people feel politically alienated. I’d like to hear more of what politicians are doing right as well as wrong so I can help persuade others that there is a point in engaging with the political system.

  • beverley

    can someone start a petition as to why in a democracy the mp`s vote how the whips tell them rather then how the electorate want them to vote? im sick to death of being ignored.

  • xpressanny

    They could not care less about any of us. Forget the idea that MPs are there to SERVE the public. They are there to SERVE THEMSELVES first and foremost, then their families and finally their mega rich, tax evading crony paymasters. The sooner we all get that the sooner people will wake up, take off the blinkers, and see that we are in very dangerous times indeed. All sense of democracy – or what;s left of it – is all but gone. We do not have a voice that this government will allow to be heard. Soon it will be illegal to voice our opinions publicly in any way shape or form. Better wise up, we have been and will continue to be sold off to the highest bidder to this government’s cronies.

    “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― George Orwell, 1984

    “Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ” ― George Orwell

  • Red king

    I’m not at all surprised. I do not believe the UK is at all a democratic country and things like this merely prove I am right. If we lived in a democracy then why do we have a government we never voted for? why do things like this continue to happen when it’s shockingly obvious the public majority and more want otherwise? Why are the poorest and most sick treated with contempt?

    This country is badly in need of a revolution.

  • sheri

    It’s almost impossible to believe that they want to stop freedom
    of speech and freedom to demonstrate. The trouble is so many people are apathetic until affects them.

  • Nige

    I think we should publish the names of the MPs who voted for the bill, in the Metro newspaper – with an explanation as to what the bill actually means for campaigniers and charitable organisations.

  • Paul Taylor

    Another disgraceful, anti-democratic performance by the government. When are people in this country going to wake up?

  • kate

    No surprise there then! Shut us up while they serve themselves!

  • Guest

    You’ll need to scroll through the speeches to get to the votes, but this is the Hansard record of the debate: http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/hansard/commons/todays-commons-debates/read/unknown/219/

  • Anonymous

    You’ll need to scroll through the speeches to get to the votes, but here is the Hansard Official Record of the debate: http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/hansard/commons/todays-commons-debates/read/unknown/219/

  • Mrs Stevie Hobbs

    I agree – The Lib Dems first went to Labour to form a coalition but they refused so they went to the Tories and you know the rest. Nobody in this country voted for a coalition so why do we have one ?- Why not a second or even third election? Happens elsewhere. and we are so busy shouting about our own perfect country yet what an example to set Eastern European newcomers who are trying to find their way in this new world. Most people have never been taught to understand politics in school. They need to be encouraged to know what political parties stand for not what they say to get elected!

  • AfterAtosAssessment

    I think 38 Degrees is pretty naive and always has been. The vote is fixed, the way this country is going is fixed, and it is about time 38 Degrees woke up and did itself and everyone else a favour, and look at history and what happend before and why at the most crucial time people in parliament voted in proposals and laws which would have benefited Hitler and nazis just prior to war. I fin 38 degrees pretty naive. Like the Kindergarten of political activists, Either they come in late, like Johnny come lately when everyone else has been doing things can campaigning, or they are naive or dumb as ****. You are really friggin naive. Path to hell is paved with good intentions and idiots.

  • Mrs Stevie Hobbs

    Everyone should read 1984 and be terrified! Here it is with few exceptions. People are filming us wherever we go and whatever we do. Thought police? Who needs it now we have the internet? Control is what they have to do to keep us obedient and ignorant.

  • xpressanny

    I couldn’t agree more. We are certainly “living” in an Orwellian world. Sleepwalking into life where we have absolutely no voice whatsoever.

  • Hrothgir Ó Dómhnaill

    And if you don’t say anything, then they can claim you don’t mind.
    Loud, and unhelpful is always amusing.

  • Hrothgir Ó Dómhnaill

    All two dozen of them.

  • ray


  • Anonymous

    When people stop voting for the same old same old. Best way to hit them I personally think take as many of the seats away from them as possible
    That is where I really think peoples energy should be working towards.


    It’s time the heat was turned on to the Liberal Democrats and let those who voted them know what they voted for so they may think twice before voting for them next time.

  • nick

    Yes, my MP always obeys the Whip. It’s the strangest form of democracy imaginable.
    Does anyone know when Britain became a democracy ? Or why we don’t celebrate the day we ended a thousand years of monarchy ? And surely a democracy needs a constitution to protect itself . . . We should petition for a constitution.

  • Breakingwind

    We are NOT a democracy !!!

    We are a Parliamentary representative democracy.

    A political system in which a body of citizens can elect people to represent them,

    BUT once elected those representatives are free to go against the wishes of the electorate & can only be stopped by losing the next election

    Our parents & grandparents fought & died to maintain the limited freedoms we have, we should not let this (or any other) bunch of
    crooks stop the truth being told.

    It’s EVERY citizens duty to expose all wrong doings,
    particularly of those who assume power over us.

    “The most effective way of dealing with the gagging law if it passes

    is for all the groups and charities to agree to break the law by making

    political statements on the first of May and to continue to do so until

    the election. Precedent is 2/3rds of the law in this country and the

    electoral commission don’t even want to enforce it.” ]

  • Mrs. Stephanie Lodge

    The way the votes went today democracy is a load of humbug! They are as Caroline said very insulting to their constituents, but hey, the elections are soon and their political
    life depends on our votes! If this is the best the MPs can do for their constituents then
    they’re clearly not fit for purpose. Some MPs never die, they probably become lobbyists!

    If it wasn’t for the HOL trying to push amendments we should push for Kill Bill! Was this in their election manifesto, we doubt it, we’re being bullied into accepting this, just like the fracking bribe.

    Pathetic lot.

  • John

    I asked my MP (Martin Vickers, Conservative, Cleethorpes) how many of his constituents had contacted him supporting this legislation. He admitted that not one single constituent was in favour, but was intending to vote for this piece of anti-democratic legislation, despite having a fair number of people opposing the proposed law. Needless to say he is rapidly convincing me that he does not deserve my vote at the next General Election, even though he did vote against any UK military involvement in Syria.

  • nick

    . . . . . everyone’s talking about it, but in this country that could mean a civil war. We tried that before and it was horrific. It divided the nation, killed tens of thousands, and traumatised many more . . . . as will another six years of “austerity”. Thanks Cleggy.

  • gyr falcon

    There really is simple solution out there. That being do not vote for a party in the next election Vote for an independent candidate.. You want to change the system that is the only way it can be done. Doing the same thing and getting the same results is insanity. If there were enough independents elected in the next Vote. This would bring about a better democracy

  • Biker 56

    The problem of power is how to achieve it’s responsible use rather than it’s irresponsible and indulgent use – of how to get men of power to live for the public rather than off the public, (Robert F Kennedy) – SO THIS LOT DON’T KNOW THIS?.

  • gregor mcconkey

    I’m Scottish. Come September I shall be voting for our independence. The sooner we are away from the bunch of crooks who run the UK from Westminster, the better.

  • Bonnie

    This Government are so PROFOUNDLY stupid, that the concept of this legislation not being a vote getter is beyond their capability. I look forward to the day when they get destroyed at the Election.

  • Neil

    We are now living in a country of dictatorship not what our granparents went to war for they went to rid the world of this types of arrogant people. Wake up Britain we need to flood the local rags from now until the election with this issue on how they dictate to us and not do as we wish.

  • DavidB

    Come the election all the political parties will be begging for money to run their campaigns.

    But if the gagging law is passed making a contribution to their coffers would be making a political statement and therefore illegal. I WON’T be making a contribution under such circumstances and I suggest anyone who disagrees with the law to also abstain.

  • rod price

    A country run by the few for the few. Rapidly the political col,our is becoming irrelevant as those in power are only there to maintain the status quo.The citizens of Ukraine are probably the beacon of resistance but I don’t think they have Corry, East Enders or Man U all far more important as opium of the people.

  • Sioux

    Can’t wait to see how my MP Bob Russell voted, I have been gagged by facebook already and have been forced to become a page as I was banned for being to political – I told the truth against the government but they are allowed to lie about me

  • JP

    Sadly I suspect I know how my LibDem MP Lynne Featherstone voted. Presumably she has already given up any hope of getting enough of our votes to be re-elected

  • Fiona Bogues

    Am interested to see how my MP voted – he voted against government research into the increasing demand on foodbanks and I’ll be challenging him on that too !

  • Jay Butcher
  • Jay Butcher

    My MP, Jonathan Lord (Con), did exactly that and despite discussions with me on this legislation has also voted with the Govt.

  • Emma Hudson

    Yes, cannot wait to see how Glenda Jackson my MP voted as she is a great MP often and called me back straight away when I contacted her on Tuesday. So, next steps have to be planned now I guess.

  • Wilderbeast

    I like your comment!! if you haven’t already, have a look at some of John Witterick’s stuff on you tube. Be Well!!

  • David Cosh

    Surely, now is the time for some form of democratic revolution. There must be some way of overhauling the democratic process to make those elected actually reflect the will of the people. It’s so depressing.

  • Philip Warrillow

    OK we now have forced unpaid labour, people being evicted from their homes, food banks on the rise, the press turning society in to an ‘us and them’ state. Now we have the government restricting (Censoring in effect) anyone who wishes to speak out against unfair and inhuman policies, Does this start to sound like a third world state to anyone else? How many more human rights violations will happen before anyone realizes what is going on? I will be voting for the Greens next time.

  • Josh

    Featherstone is my MP too. When I write to her, she usually writes back, explaining how she agrees with me but is going to support the government anyway! Or that’s what her letters sound like. I can only think the LibDems are deceiving themselves and don’t know how angry and let down many of their (former) supporters are, there’s no other way to explain their consistently craven behaviour in parliament. If they really understood the price they are (surely?) going to pay at the ballot box next time they would act differently.

  • mw

    Christopher Chope (Con. Christchurch) was against this bill a couple of months ago. Hoping he hasn’t gone over to the dark side…

  • Tony

    Why do politicians always do as there told on voting are the one single brain or do they have the ability to think alone?

  • Nigel Rawson

    I really agree with you on this – politicians have completely lost a grip on reality – its all ‘I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine’ and lining the pockets of them and their friends.
    I have written to my MP several times and all you get back is a ‘party line’ script that is sent to all who comment on any given subject – no real answers ever.
    I’m not sure they even care if we don’t vote for them at the next election because they are all busy networking with people who may employ them after parliament.
    Maybe we should find our own ‘muskateers’

  • Robert Walsh

    As an englishman gregor mc conkey, i have to wholeheartedly agree with you! good luck to you and scotland.

  • Paul Atkinson

    looks like we ALL need to email our MP’s “frequently” expressing our feelings?
    they may come to like ONE petition and point of contact eh?

  • motherogods

    It is so depressing seeing our country forced to return to victorian laisser faire attitude and policies. In the seat in which I live was a Liberal stronghold (not that I vote lib either) til Lembit took the rise too much and now, by default is a Tory. I have written to him so many times that we’re on first name terms! Yes, I’m that bloody woman!! I still always get that the patronising party line…where is our democracy? Please anyine reading this pls see the 38 degree campaign re the tories sneaking a bill thru to have our August bank holiday named after the tory witch (sorry can’t write her name)…vive la revolution!

  • AH

    Did my old dad fight in two world wars, along with my mum loosing her four sister and brother for the freedom and democracy? Only to find 60years later we are being gagged on important issues, that these people (MP’s) with very privileged backgrounds would prefer to ignore. Not one of them have done a day in a work place or at the end of the week have a pay packet that YOU know has to last you another 7 days, meeting all bills as well. Join the real world. Bet even in their student days at university they didn’t have to go to a pay day loan sharks they just phoned home. If an MP would like to take me to task over this so be it. If its any thing like my local council they made Private Eye just before Christmas, how disgraceful is that. The council made 252 people redundant then payed the senior staff a fat pay rise.
    Will never believe what they say, all experts at dodging the issue. Personally I think we should put the Women’s Institute in the house of Commons and let the men stay at home and look after the kids

  • Wallberry

    Please don’t leave, Gregor McConkey. We need you all the more now!

  • Pissed off 24/7

    Trouble with this Government, the Libs have to toe the Line or they will be in the backwoods for another 100 years, and the Tories just don’t care about their voters, as they think they are so much smarter. Shame on all of them. Is Mugabe on their team, by the way?
    Does this bill mean that we will not be able to send these objections to you in future?

  • Dovermush

    Go for it Gregor. Hopefully the rump of the UK will not then be able to afford replacement WMDs when the Trident mass murder system is past its explode by date. Also opposition parties to the Tories might learn how to work together successfully in Wales, NI & England without relying on massed ranks of Scottish labour voters.

  • spurnlad

    They will be in the backwoods anyway after next year, when BOTH their remaining MPs will have to side with someone.

  • JD

    Never was so much money made by so few at the expense of so many. I used to vote Tory as Labour was just incompetent and Libs irrelevant but never again you cabbot trust any of them. They have no morals and no backbone.

  • JB

    Yeah this is all pretty disheartening. Interestingly, at the same time that the current government is attempting to limit the ability to protest, police authorities across the UK are demanding water cannons (so they can put protests down more quickly if/when they do occur).

    Can we not impeach David Cameron? I mean he’s a muppet anyway, and Nick Clegg, well who cares about Clegg… ? The sad fact is, however, that there isn’t really any viable alternative at the moment. Ed Miliband has about as much charisma as a used teabag :-(

    We should demand the old girl dissolve Parliament and then abolish her monarchy while she’s at it. In this day and age I really don’t know why we perpetuate this ‘divine right of kings’ nonsense – the queen is superior to none of us and it’s time she stopped pretending that she is ;-)

    Anyone think there’s the remote possibility of Caroline Lucas for PM?


    After writing to my MP several times – I called him yesterday afternoon – as usual he was not in his office. He is a part time MP – last year his income from his main job as a barrister was £420,000, so as usual I had to deal with his PA. When I pointed out that the Salvation Army are against the Bill (my MP was featured in the local press singing carols with them at Christmas) I also pointed out that The Countryside Alliance is also against the Bill (they still have some influence down here in rural Devon). My MP’s PA said the Bill would not curb the work of these two “worthy organisations” – but it is “needed to stop 38 Degrees affecting the outcome of elections.” The political establishment are obviously very scared of people using social media – as a channel to organise and create new forms of people powered politics. We must let not let them take our power away.

  • Cloud Watcher

    As another poster has said we don’t have a democracy.

    At least not one that represents the people of the country.

    The sad thing is most people don’t want a democracy where decisions are argued over and compromises reached, they simply want more of the current system but on certain key issues they want their voice to hold sway and be the one voice that counts, they certainly don’t want to compromise or discuss the issue, after all they might not get their way.

    However just in case I’m wrong, if you want a parliament that represents the people first, here’s a way of doing it, it doesn’t need a revolution, there are no riots, it works within the system.

    Create a political party to represent your constituency, and find someone who will stand for it, then vote for that person at the next election.

    Your elected representative will then represent you and your party, and you can put in your charter that if say 20% of the party express an opinion then your representative is legally bound to represent the majority view on pain of immediately losing their seat and forcing a new election, where you find a new representative who will represent the people.

    If the party does not express an opinion then the MP is free to vote according to conscience or even follow a lab/con/lib/green/ukip/whatever party line.

    Essentially your constituency becomes a party whip and the constituents always come first.

    Now yes it’s naive and there will be problems but it’s legal and it can give you a voice in parliament, which is one more than you have now.

    It’s risky in that you actually have to win your constituency and it helps if other constituencies do the same for themselves as that way parliament gets stuffed with independent MP’s who represent the people first.

    There will be a break even point where a critical number of such MP’s will effectively break party politics, coalition will be the normal course, issues will be debated and the people will have a say on key points that matter to them.

    However no one I’ve put this idea forward to so far has been keen on the idea, they all want more of the same but with themselves in charge or they want a revolution as they have a few scores to settle and blood seems to be the only thing that will pay their bill.

    Still see what you think.

  • Svend Hansen

    To see how your MP voted (in this and all other votes), check out: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

  • Nowhereman

    The problem with round table discussion to reach a ‘compromise’ is that you still get capitalism. The best vote is not to vote – best statement possible…

  • oneofthemasses

    I am one of the many who don’t take deep interest in changing politics. Yes I am a Coronation Street watcher – opium of the people and all that. But 38 degrees has reached me – however naive and `johnny come lately’ you consider it to be. Other political activist groups take heed – you need to reach the ordinary masses like me and connect!

  • Jim Dodds

    Nelson Mandela fought apartheid, i.e. the twenty percent who ruled the other eighty percent with an iron fist. The South African eighty percent were black skinned, in Britain the eighty percent is multi-racial, the fist covered in velvet, blows softened by the PR of press and television. When New Labour disappeared into this divisive menage socialism was lost without trace. Democracy, ever a myth in Britain, aristocracy and the House of Lords anachronistic remnants of a bygone age. Multi-national corporate empires replacing the sovereign empires of yesteryear their executives residing in tax havens. Power supplies, railways, post office, airlines et al all safe in their hands. Supposedly safer than they were in ours but does anybody know why? HS2 will connect north and south ‘they’ say. North being Birmingham but not the north of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Durham, Northumberland, Cumberland or Scotland, ‘yet’ they say so what will it really connect? Tax payers money into capitalist pockets for sure. Fracking, atomic power and the destruction all things good is of small importance to tax exiles. Global warming will, of course, solve all our problems with never a lesson learned and never an objection heard.

  • LibbyVision

    No matter how hard we try, we still can’t seem to vote out capitalism. Spooky.

  • Matthew Kayser
  • L

    This is so sad. Thank you 38 degrees for the work you are doing and continue to do, and admiration to all the resolute people, who continue to refuse to have the wool pulled over their eyes, and aspire and for a fairer and more just society, where freedom and democracy have a substantive, not nominal meaning.

  • LibbyVision

    What Jim Dodds just said ^^^.
    It’s a conspiracy of self-interest and the naturalisation of it’s ideologies that the politicians, journos, media etc subscribe to – believing they have become members of a hyper-modern, intellectual and ‘mystical’ cabal with it’s contradictory promise of ‘belonging’ – not realising how hyporthetical and irrelevant they have made themselves, they have rendered themselves without value in the world and as real history unravels around them, they won’t even notice.

  • RN

    Nice to see Anne Milton voting with the party and not taking the views of her constituents into account!! I know who I won’t be voting for next time. Very disappointing.

  • Robert 100

    Cheryl Gillan looking after the vested interests of the party rather than that of the electorate obviously thinks we are too stupid to have a say in how our country is run. mind goes along with her u turns on HS2. Get ready to pick up your P45 in the next election you turncoat

  • LibbyVision

    Good story if true, I think charitable organisations should become ruthlessly political and have candidates representing the interests of altruism (no, i’m not naive, but it’s a good place to start) and put a stop to the rules of the economic system being rigged by the wealthy elite.

  • Mal

    Yeah, much better to sit on our arses and do nothing eh? If the opposite to naivety is to throw up my hands with not even murmur of dissent, then I’d be proud to be naive. What’s your solution? Lie back and watch it happen?

  • ges

    Typically my MP ( Swayne NF West )voted as he always does, looking after the interests of his party and not considering at all the wishes of his constituents.

  • LibbyVision

    Disappointing from the lib dems, if there was no coalition, they would have voted the other way. compromise has a habit of leaning to the right in politics.

  • Michael

    I believe it is high time the voting system in this country was changed to include ‘ a vote of NO confidence’ as a choice then we could measure precisely the mood of the electorate and maybe give our complacent government a wake-up call! Our politicians appear to only be interested in their own agenda and ignore the concerns of the general public who elect them in the first place.

  • John

    You’ll just swap our mutual crooked politicians for some which are exclusively yours!

  • Anonymous

    Once more, a shocking example of toeing the party line. I expected all Tories to vote as they have but Lib Dems ought to be thoroughly ashamed. Outrageous number of absentees considering the potential impact of this insiduous piece of legislation.

  • Keith Lutener

    Andrew Bingham Cons MP – Despite pressure has voted Aye and not sure why. This is clearly against public opinion and after this I wont be voting for him again.

  • ShelleyRamone

    My MP, Naomi Long did the right thing and voted no. I have sent her an email expressing my thanks to her for standing up and listening to her constituents. I also asked her to keep up the pressure and I’m sure she will. Its a good feeling, knowing who i voted for actually cares about democracy and wants to help.

  • Gee

    Mine run under a rock, i hope the coward stays there…

  • David Powell

    Strongly endorse, your appeal! As a South Briton who respects the Scots, and loves Scotland, – Some of us feel strong family bonds which I would hate to see broken. I fear the signs of tribal nationalisms, – south as well as north of the border. In the last century on our continent sentiments of a not too disimilar kind to were exploited and perverted to create unimaginable evils on our continent. Perhaps all our ‘isms’ work, – as bread and circuses, to divert our energies from the fundamental problems we share, and so sadly, we might all hang together anyway if we can’t truly work together, – and not give up on each other!

  • Alan Griffey

    The great Adrian Sanders, MP for Torbay did the right thing and voted ‘no’. Thanks Adrian.

  • David Powell

    The lack of legitimacy doesn’t worry the elite who rule, – its too easy to win with thirty odd percent plus of the vote. Its not much the way the system works, but the vote is (almost) all we have, – maybe we should be playing up its value and getting all the none voters who feel powerless to get involved, – and make the elites a little afraid? More powerful than a statement?

  • Dave

    Why would a government want to
    introduce a law that would make it effectively illegal for the
    citizens of a country to conduct campaigns in the year running up to
    an election?

    This is the question I asked myself
    when I heard about the ‘Transparency of Lobbying, Non-party
    Campaigning and Trade Union Administration Bill’.

    The Bill aims to limit spending by
    organisations in relation to certain activities which would affect
    the ability of charities, community groups and campaigning
    organisations to run campaigns in the twelve months prior to any
    election. To hear this is being proposed in the British Parliament
    is alarming as Britain has for many, many years been seen in the
    world as a bedrock of democracy.

    This Bill, effectively denying British
    citizens of the means to publicly express their views and run
    campaigns goes against the very principles of freedom of speech and
    expression in a democratic society.

    Such a departure from the principles of
    democracy, freedom of speech and expression that the Bill represents
    fails to honour the efforts and sacrifices that have been made by
    many individuals who have strived to promote such honourable ideals.
    From 1939 to 1945 millions of British citizens and those of other
    nations fought against, with many paying the ultimate sacrifice, a
    tyranny whose objective was the very termination of the mechanisms of
    democracy, free speech and the freedom for citizens to openly express
    their views.

    After this conflict we spent the next
    fifty years opposing the tyranny of Soviet Bloc communism who also
    harboured the idea that democracy with freedom of expression was a
    bad deal and should be stamped out. Of late we have visited other
    countries to promote the idea that democracy and the freedom to speak
    your views is better than the totalitarianism that was prevalent in
    these places. Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind here, where again
    people have made the ultimate sacrifice to fight against those who
    deny democracy and the freedom of speech and expression to their

    So why does the British Parliament
    believe it is a good idea to proceed to introduce a Bill that would
    deny the British citizen the means to express their views and speak

    I have had a think and can come up with
    some possible explanations:

    The proposed Bill is badly
    drafted, in which case it should be re-written to exclude anything
    that would limit the ability of people to campaign, speak freely and
    express their views.

    MPs and Parliament are planning
    something horrid and want to prevent any opposition to their plans.

    MPs may be intending to
    participate in some tasteless act of self indulgence and don’t want
    to be criticised for their actions – maybe they are planning to
    award themselves a large pay rise when the rest of the country makes
    do with low wages or no wages.

    MPs believe that the public have
    lost faith in them, they don’t trust them any more and that they are
    not getting value for money from their elected representatives. MPs
    want to prevent any public debate on these issues.

    Questions to ask those who voted in
    favour of the Bill:

    Why this Bill is felt relevant and
    necessary when it will fail to stop ‘big money’ lobbying but will
    silence the normal expression of opinion of honest hard working
    people who are doing the right thing and striving to get on in life.

    Bearing in mind the restrictions
    the Bill would place on campaigning by charities, community groups
    and campaigning organisations, will it comply with Article 19 of the
    International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and Article 10
    of the European Convention on Human Rights?

    Do you believe in the phrase: “I
    disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
    right to say it”?

  • Jamie Lees

    Pleased to see my MP, Chris White did the right thing and went against the party line to oppose this appalling legislation. Thanks Chris :)

  • hwhanworth

    The result of the vote is depressing, but, on the other hand, so is reading many of the semi-literate comments. Is it a reflection on teaching methods or on the attitude of the populace to education that there is such confusion about the difference between ‘it’s’ and ‘its’? Not to vote is merely an abdication of responsibility. You may not vote if that is your wish, but you had better not complain if we are again landed with a bunch of neo-liberal ideologues who would sell their own grandmothers to the lowest bidder.

  • Daytime

    Oh, you’re looking for charisma

  • Daytime

    ? We had one of those once, remember? The one with the toothpaste smile who declared war on Iraq – thousands killed and the Middle East now in turmoil. So much for charisma. We need sincerity, honesty and determination.

  • Anonymous

    In fact thanks to all of those Conservative MPs who put the people of this country first, against the party line.

  • gusty

    Actually, when you vote IN some criminal politicians, I know exactly who to blame. People like you!

    So when given the choice between liar 1 and liar 2, who do I choose? The one who will screw us the least, or at least SAYS they will screw us least? Get real. This government is not mine, I didnt vote them into power.

  • Gusty

    I agree. I would vote every time if I could vote “no confidence”.

  • Des

    JIM Dods you have hit it right in the nose Democracy in this country don’t make me laugh. The government have destroyed this country for greed. They have given all our industries to other countries power network uk owned by china power company’s Spain France Germany tax havens for the rich being an MP is like winning the lottery.
    How about the 11% pay rise for MPs they don’t want ha ha that’s been swept under the carpet. Only big business can lobby UK citizens not allowed to voice their opinion.
    Just be carefully who you vote for not Tory/Lib/Lab

  • cal

    My MP jeremy Wright voted yes. Did he even take a consensus on how his constituents wanted him to represent them? After all he does work for us. Doesn’t he??????????

  • jgas

    It’s alarming: Spains police force wants a water cannon, Spain has a massively unpopular “Ley Mordaza” or gagging law -like this but on steroids…huge fines and insulting the country one of the crimes :-0
    There is definitely a hymn sheet somewhere.
    Transatlantic Free Trade still not being talked about and they fill their mouths with homilies about democracy and free speech!
    Rolling individual industrial action, strategic go slows f*** “productivity and competitiveness”
    fill your troughs with your own sweat!
    Peak rage must be coming…targets for water cannon: Countryside Alliance! Gaza Protest! Tuition fee protest! And their real fear: looting and burning of course (well it’s a great justification).
    My MP has teflon ears and no conscience or something (North Cornwall)
    Great book: the consolidation of democracy in Europe
    Basically if you don’t piss off the right too much, you can have democracy – or this simulacrum.

  • jgas

    I would upvote you more if I could! Where did this tripe about charisma come from anyway? Surely morals and a backbone (as mentioned below…just read on to find a similar point of view – bar previous voting inclinations) would be, at the least, a refreshing change.
    And acting in the public interest, goes without saying.

  • Jay Cheetham

    John Leech my MP who is a Lib failed to attend again for the 2nd time. I have written to him asking why he did not attend and why he is not listening to the people he claims to represent. I will post his repl on here as soon as I get it.

  • Thomas

    If this government shut us down, we will only have small micro-parties such as the TUSC and Left Unity to register our dissent, with no chance of getting any seats or having much influence. Maybe we should become a political party and do to them what they fear-get as many of the MPs who want to gag us as possible voted out. We might even get a few seats.

  • curahn

    Just so I’m clear, is a no vote a vote to reject the changes made by the lords?

  • Thomas

    Yes, to those Tories who put the country first, thank you, Tories though you be, for putting the country first.

  • Jenny Barrett

    I am truly disaffected with Norman Baker who when in opposition did a great job for his constituents. Democracy is dying a slow death as a result of this bill and those who voted for it should be ashamed of themselves.

  • Marie Pickering

    My Mp Frank Roy Motherwell and Wishaw was ABSENT! Why? I shall be asking him!

    Quite appalling the number who were absent, Are the not there to defend our rights~HA!

  • John Temple

    When are we going to march to Parliament square about this –
    or organize demonstrations in the centre of every town against the bill and the
    way the Government has rammed it through the Commons. Read (on the internet) the House of Commons Hansard for 22/01/14 column 305 onwards (Graham Allen’s speech) and note this giant nail in the coffin of democracy.
    Then write to protest to your MP. Only a few dozen MPs “in the chamber” for the debate– but hundreds voted at the Government’s call. (including my MP-he’s going to get a scorching letter).
    In the Commission on Civil Society and Democratic Engagement petition there are dozens of organizations with views or aims that I strongly disagree with – but I will defend to the death their right to campaign freely for their views. I will join hands with any of them who join with me, before together we chain ourselves to the railing of Parliament in protest.

  • EnglishIrishWelsh

    Grateful both Swansea MPs did the right thing in voting “no” to *rejecting* the House of Lords amendments – all my pestering might even have helped that to happen!

  • EnglishIrishWelsh

    Yes – it took me a while, but yes, that is correct.

  • EnglishIrishWelsh

    Ah!! No I misread your question – a “no” vote, is a “no, I don’t want to reject the amendments made by the House of Lords, I don’t think it’s right that we [allow businesses to lobby as much as they want without accountability] / [prevent charities and non-profits from voicing the population's opinions]” i.e. a “no” vote is a vote for democracy!

  • curahn

    Thanks. I wanted to make sure I understood and that my mp voted the way I wanted.

  • Emma Hudson

    Anyone that thinks the “Countryside Alliance” is a worthy cause needs their head read anyway. Oh dear , so the political establishment are nervous are they? Good, they should have been feeling nervous a long time ago. They influence election results themselves anyway. What they want is a George Orwell “Animal Farm” scenario where they are the pigs and the rest of us are Boxer the Horse, slogging our guts out till we drop down dead with no reward

  • Emma Hudson

    Sorry I got that wrong – drop down dead of exhaustion and then taken to the knackers yard unknowingly

  • Emma Hudson

    Caroline Lucus all the way I say for PM. She at least has a pair of balls bigger than peanuts unlike the majority of them. !

  • Emma Hudson

    Maybe now organising a big protest is the only way – they were very sneaky with their timings and that hacked off the Lords for starters. As long as we keep backing up the Lords then in the meantime we can try and swing things round. I notice most of the Tory’s and Lib Dem’s were rejecting the changes – like that was any surprises. Fib Dems and Conning Conservatives though I have to say most suck.

  • Emma Hudson

    Looks like a big march with media coverage might be the next step then for Plan B. I had a nasty feeling this was not going to be plain sailing but there was not an overwhelming number causing the divide. Still a strong chance of turning things around I think personally.

  • carol

    I hope I’m not repeating this but perhaps some of the MP’s voting aye and so against general public opinion had better remember who voted them in and how this will change some people’s voting preferences next time, even if to abstain!

  • Matt Mitchell

    So, Mel Stride, Con. Central Devon, took absolutely no notice of those he’s elected to represent and pleased himself………again!! He ‘Aye’-'Aye’d in the right places just to please his bosses rather than his constituents. He won’t get my vote again!! All I hope is that this goes back to the Lords and the Lords sort something out. If necessary, this bill should go backwards and forwards until our elected MP’s ALL do as we want them to do rather than what THEY want to do!! Why do they insist on ignoring the wishes of the electorate so often?

  • Anonymous

    See some libdems being anything but liberal or democratic.Hope their constituents are aware of their efforts to shut down democracy.

  • kate

    2 teams again one seems hardly fair of course con/lib will stick together

  • Twincam

    So, why don’t some of us stand for 38 Degrees in the next election?

  • David Haley

    Well written Dave – I have put your comment on my FaceBook page as an explanations about the Gaggin Law – hope that is Ok. My MP Barbara Keeley of Salford had already said her and her colleagues would be voting No and they did
    Dave Haley

  • Anonymous

    They seem to have contempt for 38 degrees which represents a wide spectrum of people who want to be heard and who happen to be voters.It’s pure stupidity.But the whips do all their thinking for them.They are just pawns to political bosses who service their sponsors,donors,lobbyists,portfolios and future employers.

  • Anonymous

    The media,including the BBC,were able to ignore the 50,000 marchers in Manchester at the time of the Tory conference.The media is controlled.

  • Elizabeth Hall

    Pleased to see that Philip Davis, Con. Shipley, voted ‘no’, as promised.

  • Anonymous

    Especially labour.Disgraceful,cowardly,treacherous.

  • MTFC Derek

    Typical “party line” voting. Really, why do we bother voting for spineless politicians. We might as well just vote one person in and face the consequences. It is such a shame that so few Tories and Lib Dems had the courage to think for themselves.

  • leoni

    If this government do not listen to the people and only the elite, why do we have to listen to them. Their job is to work for the people by the people, who pays their wages?

  • hyacynths

    Convenient for so many to be, — absent!!!

  • weeny

    Typical undemocratic government. Never listen to the people. I would shoot the bastards as it is all they understand.

  • Derek West

    My MP for South Norfolk always follows the party line,he has hopes of a senior post,put a blue rosette on a turd and it would be ellected here,

  • hyacynths

    Binley Thanks for letting Northampton down. You rotter. Where is your conscience? Waste of space!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well said!

  • alice. an old campaigner

    Some MPs seem to forgetting that they are there because we vote for them to run this country as we would like. When we campiaign; when we demonstrate; when we sign petitions and write to them it is because we have something to say or we are angry at the way things are going. If we are gagged then we will still find other ways of expressing ourselves, u so beware there could be an Egypt or a Ukraine around the corner. As for the Lib Dems they have signed their own death warrant….spineless behaviour means they will have lost all respect and the next election will be their retirement from political history.

  • knowlsey

    so they are not voting what the public wants anymore, so what the hell is the point of our mp’s exactly, the just tow the party line and do what the buffoon in charge wants

    sod politics and everything it stands for, there should be a revaluation i tell ya, its long overdue

  • Graham

    Thanks to our Bolsover representative.

  • Colin Prower

    So important that our ‘local’ MP… (one D. Cameron) was ‘absent’ for the vote! How convenient.

  • James Kerr

    Peter Aldous you twat ,Waveney would be better with Labour MP . It’s not enough to kiss babies on the head to help you get elected ,now your kissing the numpty of a PM s arse, what a let down !

  • Dan C

    I am now convinced that ‘None of the above’ is the only way forward. Cameron didn’t even get a majority to govern and so had to join up with Clegg, a man who only got the votes that he did based on a misrepresentation (AKA a lie) about student fees!

    They are making a mockery of democracy.

  • Irene Bailey

    Thank you, Chris Williamsom

  • michael keane

    Nigel Evans – shame on you

  • Jaime


  • Dangle-oaf

    I notice over 50 absentees. A way of voting without voting, perhaps, seeing as the whips would know the outcome before hand? This way you get to throw you hands up and lament the outcome and no-one gets to pin you down?

  • Gaz Hat

    The reason Bullingdon Buffoon Boris has requested the water cannons is because what with all our emails & social media being read they know how pissed off we all are, and this action further proves we are no longer living in a democracy. I’m sick to the back teeth of these Selfservative scumbags, they needed removing 4 years ago but we can all sat a heart felt thank you to Calamity Clegg and his Tory Enabler Party…

  • Gaz Hat

    I’ve had a gutful of these Selfservative scum-buckets, they must not, by ANY means possible be allowed a 2nd term, they’ve announced an all out us vs them war, we are living in seriously dangerous times, our freedom and right are being eroded away in front of our very eyes…

  • Martin

    So practically all of labour voted no while nearly all conservatives and lib dems voted yes… both times


    I will never vote lib dem for anything, for as long as I live

  • bodmin

    You Tory stooge, shame on you!!

  • Barbara

    Same with Ms Trusst

  • Colin Taylor

    Same with the waste of Space that is Gareth Johnson-no principles at all

  • Carl

    Another problem is you all still believe you have a vote! When do you all wake up and see its always rigged and even if you cant wake up a see this why do you still believe any of there manifestos they all lie all of the time. Wake up for god sake.

  • Maggie

    Shame on you Menzies Campbell – liberals are finished in Scotland!

  • christine Nicoletti

    Ian Davidson, you listened to your constituents and voted no.

  • Lynette Shaw McKone

    Dear MWHandworth,
    Have you never made a spelling or minor grammatical error when you’re so angry that you cannot even think straight? (I trust my use of the contraction ‘you’re’ is acceptable?) When one’s brain is seething with the social injustices thrust upon us by our overlords I would rather read any number of misspelled, passion-fueled statements than carefully proof-read, edited, calculated PC’d statements! A few spelling errors do not make the points any less valid. I have a BA(HONS) yet my age and declining health mean I may make many more errors than I once did, however my thoughts, feelings and opinions are as valid and important as yours are: how about you dismount, concentrate on the discussion and stay on topic?

  • Joan Woodhead

    Shame on you Gareth Johnson, I do not believe that you are supporting the working class within your area and are not an independent voice for a working class area. You have let us down. Remember you work for the people….

  • scarletangel

    Amber Rudd you never fail to disappoint!!!!!

  • Robin Horsell

    When Simon Hughes said Aye and Aye, who was ‘our’ minister of ‘Justice’ voting for? Himself, the party, the nasty coalition, the extremely wealthy? It isn’t even as if the Tories show any respect for him, how ever much he tries to make them happy: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2528204/MP-Double-Standards-Simon-Hughes-does-U-turn.html

  • bill

    Robert Buckland shame on you you will soon be my ex mp good bye

  • Paul

    Sajid Javid
    shame on you – you do not represent your constituents!

  • Syd Sloggett

    End the system of whips. THAT is an affront to democracy in itself. It does not allow MPs to vote IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS WISHES. I don’t know whether my MP is a member of the Masons, Church, etc, so my membership of a union IS MY BUSINESS. What is it this mouthpiece for big business that dresses up as a government that makes them so frightened of the ordinary people of this country?

  • Syd Sloggett

    I rather think that, due to Clegg’s shameless pandering to the Tories in his lust for power, The Lib-Dem’s will be obliterated at the next election, they are not natural bed fellows for the “government”.

  • Claire Hoinville

    …and so Boris wanting water canon makes chilling reasoning now…

  • Linda

    And what do you suggest?

  • Linda

    lol and very eloquently put!! Ever thought about standing for your council? You’d walk it x

  • Linda

    Bring it on! x

  • Jeremy Morfey

    Letter to my MP, which I copied to UKIP HQ (the only party the Tories seem to be worried about right now) hoping this might appeal to their sense of sovereignty, and its erosion thereof by all the parties endorsing the secretly lobbied Special Adviser system of Government. Also to the local Lib Dems, who are hopelessly split, with one group in Alliance with the Tories and another split off to join the Greens. Labour has no influence here, and despite not supporting this Bill, in Government they were enthusiastic about Special Advisers and secret lobbying. Ed Miliband himself was a Special Adviser once.

    Dear Harriet Baldwin

    Thank you for your recent correspondence on the Transparency of Lobbying, Non Party Campaigning and Trade Union Administration which I understand to be to restrict the effectiveness of public campaigning in the run-up to a general election. I take note about your concerns about political activities by charities, but I had thought these were already covered by the Charities Act and needed no further legislation.

    I was dismayed to see the Commons overturning a Lords amendment that extended the requirement of transparency to cover Special Advisers.

    Why did you do this, and what is the role of Special Advisers? My understanding is that they have secret and unregulated access to Government policymakers in order to undermine the influence of constituents. Such decisions drawn up by the Special Advisers are then pushed by the whips and the Parliamentary timetabling system, so that elected representatives have little influence over the outcome. Nor do any peers independent of this structure, who are systematically being whittled down. I am particularly concerned by the role of the Liberal Democrat leadership, whom I had thought were above this sort of manoeuvring, but apparently not.

    I am appalled that they are not being regulated or their activities made transparent to the public, and question your validity as my Parliamentary representative (or indeed anyone voted in to replace you) for as long as this system is in operation. This is a pity, since you could be a force for good in this constituency. … [paragraph edited out with a personal reference to an old family friend who voted for the Bill, and might have written it!]

    …I would also be interested in the position of the Deputy Prime Minister, whose party in Opposition has always stood for more public accountability within Parliament, but now seem to have blown their credibility.

  • Linda

    I’ve yet to meet ANYONE who admits to voting in this waste of space shambles! When did we turn communist… I must have been sleeping

  • Juno55

    Totally agree with you Monsieur Oaf. Gordon Brown has been absent from 2 of these votes now, and I’d like to know WHY!

  • Linda

    Their own agenda being how much money they can pocket and how many millionaire cronies they can help before they are thrown out on their collective ears… 2015 can’t come quickly enough, but I fear for the damage they will have caused before then

  • Linda

    Just like to thank my MP Mr Ed Balls for voting no, as he has said several times was his intention. Thank you. Also, my thanks and gratitude go to all the lovely people at 38 Degrees. These con/dems have had it all their own way so far, so I’m sure we’re like a fish-bone in their throats… I wish!

  • Poppy

    Mike Thornton Lib Dem Eastleigh did as he was told by his “superiors” as always! We, his constituents (the 38 Degrees members and others who attended the meeting with him in Eastleigh), who asked him to reject the Bill as it stands, were told to stop being naughty children, we obviously didn’t understand such important technical Govt stuff, and to go away! (Despite us collectively probably having more understanding of the Bill’s wording, and intelligence/wide private and public sector experience, in that one room than most of the Govt and certainly the many Con/Lib Dem MPs who voted to reject the Lords’ amendments).
    Whilst there is ANY doubt that the wording of this Bill is wrong, ALL our MPs should be rejecting it!
    Though I should add that, in Eastleigh, we know from the By election experience (where 38 Degrees did such fantastic work) that the wording is probably deliberate because the Govt is scared that in the next elections even more people won’t vote for Conservative or Lib Dem and that the “safe”, “2horse race” (Con/Lib Dem) seat is no longer safe for either party.

  • Jackie

    Special thank you to Stewart Hosie, Dundee and to Michael Weir, Angus who voted no …as did all SNP MP’s! Keep up the good fight 38 Degrees.

  • James Kerr

    Hahahaha thanks Linda !

  • Peter

    UKIP is the only party to get us out of clutches of these politicians who don’t give a damn for the people they are supposed to be serving. All because we are in the European Union our voices are not being listened to. Democracy is dead in this country as it is in the whole of Europe. We are governed by un-elected bureaucrats who tell us what we can and can’t do. We can’t get rid of foreign criminals who, PRESUMABLY, come to this country to BOOST OUR ECONOMY. A FAT LOT OF GOOD THEY ARE TO US, IF WE’RE KEEPING THEM IN OUR PRISONS. These people are defended by those idiots in the European Parliament. Let’s get rid of our puppets in Westminster at the next election and vote for common sense UKIP. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.

  • jenni

    ‘Demockery’, we could call it. It would be funny if it wasn’t disempowering and infuriating. How do we get young abstainers to vote when, quite frankly, MPs don’t represent their constituents’ views. Mine doesn’t.

  • Ian Sanderson

    Alan ReidArgyll and ButeLDem: Mibbes aye Mibbes no

  • Daver

    So whats next, no one is to individually stand up & criticize a prospective MP just in case he is caught out & influence his/her elect ability?

    This is a minority government elected by a minority of the registered voters, Is it any wonder they are so frightened that they have to legislate against public opinion while they can!

  • Daver

    Still no media coverage on this, I wonder why!

  • Paul Osborne

    I hope this page will be here for a long time, as it is evidence of how the Tories are anti-democratic extremists. The spoilt have an instinct for manipulation and will do anything to fulfil their greed, even at the expense of a nation’s freedom. It is a reminder that the wealthy media support them and they now want the voices of their kind to be the only voices we hear. I would never vote for a party that is led by Cameron’s pocket fluff, Clegg, and it is obvious who owns him and his party from this result. If freedom of speech goes underground we will have to shout louder as individuals to make sure we are heard, but they have just given us a much more obvious example than their usual pickpocketing.

  • Dave

    No problem David, copy it where you like. Good luck and cheers mate.

  • Maggie May

    I have three times written to Owen Paterson, my MP in N. Shropshire, about this and still await an answer! (He failed to listen to public opinion re the badger cull also and still is). I notice he was absent from this vote, but don’t suppose he is too worried as to paraphrase what another person ahs commented on here: one can pin a blue rosette on a donkey in Shropshire and it will get voted in.

  • Jonny buck

    i am on the opposite side of the political spectrum to my MP Philip Davies, but congratulations to him for voting against rejecting the Lords amendments

  • markelliott12@yahoo.com

    Well , surprise me! I spoke to Sir Peter Tapsell and was under the impression he would vote no and as a life long Lib Dem I feel sold down the river
    What choice now Cameron May as well declare a dictatorship as the rules are now in place.

  • FatBaz43

    I think we are missing the point here. The secret lobyists represent organisations who contribute not inconsiderable sums to the Tory Party, Charities are….well….charities supported by people who make a genuine contibution – unpaid. I did write to my local MP for Mole Valley as why the Conservative Party wished to remain members of what is a socialist organisation, ruling from the centre with unelected commisioners. Reply there came – none. I did not vote tory to be ruled not only by an undemocratic organisation, but where our PM is forced to negotiate with the Germans and French. Has anybody seen a bullet pointed list of all the the items he is going to negotiate prior to the so called referendum? Don’t hold your breathe. Keep up the good work 38 degrees.

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  • Bladderword

    My MP voted Yes. She did explain why in a very nice letter (
    2 pages) I did not understand anything of it!
    In fact, it really read to me the opposite of what 38 degrees has said.
    I did write to Andrea Leadsom , thanking her for reply- (she always does)
    but I did say that I really did not understand her letter and that I was
    disappointed! I joined in with 38 degrees, because I feel it is our fundamental
    right to express our opinion and take action to create awareness. My
    motivation is to support the charity
    http://www.tvt-mum/petition. This is a charity set up by a
    mesh sufferer who has worked tirelessly, with her team, to create awareness about surgical mesh implant surgery SUI and Organ Prolapse and hernia repairs This experimental mesh implant surgery is offered widely
    and not many risks are explained, (especially the long term risk over many years), when consenting to elective surgery. The
    Government is controlled (?)- or (at least, heavily influenced) by big mesh
    manufacturers.They call the shots (donations, research capital and
    lucrative” Golden handshakes” where needed and most likely, gratefully
    received! Thankfully, these manufacturers are now being taken to court in the US and many other English speaking countries! Only through persistent drive of injured mesh patients (men and women) this momentum has been created. Without the freedom of expression none of
    this awareness would have been possible. More information: http://www.tvtinfo@wordpress.com

  • Anonymous

    My MP was absent!

  • Maggie

    Scotland please vote YES for independence – Look at how our Scottish MPs voted on this law apart from those Scottish liberals who will be voted out at next election anyway.

  • Diesel Cummins

    My MP Therese Coffey voted aye, she would as she has yet to vote anything but with this lousy Government. I did receive a lengthy email of gobbledegook that as a typical Tory MP did not answer my concerns, I even made an appointment at her surgery, she cancelled twice, well I do have a reputation for questioning every decision made by Tory Councillors on a regular basis, particularly two County Councillors, so perhaps the appeal of a face-to-face meet did not appeal to her? She would not vote against if I were to put a bomb under her! I asked her point blank by email did she realise the full consequences of her decision? Another Tory diatribe that failed totally to answer the question was received by way of reply, so 38 Degrees please do not ask me to email her again it is simply a waste of time and what’s worse there’s very little likelihood of ever getting shot of her unless she decides not to stand and then they will simply pin a blue rosette on the next Tory Donkey to take her place, no disrespect to Donkeys by the way, quite loveable creatures unlike the Tories!

  • Diesel Cummins

    Hopefully the Lib-Dems will be history after the next election so they will no longer hold power way beyond their numbers, they really are riding the “Gravy Train” into oblivion, Lloyd George will be pirouetting in his grave.

  • Diesel Cummins

    There were too few Tories who thought for themselves unfortunately, but there is hope that more will see through this nasty piece of ill-thought out legislation if only they removed the blinkers Camoron has placed on their heads.

  • Diesel Cummins

    You are probably correct and the sooner Cleggy realises the harm he has done his Party the sooner he’ll jump ship and drop Camoron and his cronies deep into the brown and smelly stuff, but alas too late to stop the Lib-Dems from disappearing up their own orifices never to be seen again. Instead of being the bulwark against Tory excesses they have actually aided and abetted them!

  • outraged

    My MP Stephen Hammond voted aye as predicted. No surprise here as he didn’t even turn up to accept the 38Degrees petition against this bill. He just left eight of us standing there waiting in a Wimbledon Cafe whilst he changed his mind . His excuse: “There were too many of us.” He was also afraid of press coverage and of being `mobbed’ by 8 people, most of us pensioners !He `always’ supports the party line and has publicly stated his support for an MP pay rise in the local paper. His wife is on the payroll too as she handles all his mail, although I am still waiting for a reply to my email dated last February! But he was very quick to defend his actions for not turning up to the meeting when I sent him an angry email. I am disgusted by the fact that Stephen Hammond still thinks he is representing his constituents.

  • Miriam Binder

    Clegg will go down in History as the Slayer of the LibDem party.
    I withdrew my membership the day he signed the coalition agreement with Cameron & co.,

  • Miriam Binder

    Well, Kirby me ol’ flake, how sad it is that you continue to fail to surprise me.

    Mind you, after a few years in office, I dare say your facial protuberant is permanently stained from all that brown-nosing you’ve been doing.

  • Diesel Cummins

    I tore up my Labour Party membership card one year into Blair’s reign when I realised he was more Thatcherite than Thatcher ever was!

  • Diesel Cummins

    He was having a champagne cocktail with Gordon Brown and a few others who decided to give the vote the old body swerve!

  • Diesel Cummins

    Only once in my 45 years of having the franchise have I actually elected somebody I actually voted for in a General Election, so apart from those 3 years at University I have lived under the yoke of somebody who I never voted for and therefore he and in this case she does not represent my views in Parliament.
    Though I do agree that the Lib-Dums are heading lemming like into the abyss never to be heard from again if they do not drop Camoron now!

  • Diesel Cummins

    Same in Suffolk Coastal, Selwyn-Gummer’s former constituency, his son is MP for one of the Ipswich constituencies so obviously those BSE burgers he was fed as a nipper have had some effect then, turned him into a replica of his father a useless ******. Pin a blue rosette on a Donkey and it would get elected see above and our present incumbent Therese Coffey, sounds like coffee but not spelt the same, and the one after her and so unto the end of time………………………….

  • Diesel Cummins

    I’m not holding my breath waiting for the reply, but if you do get one it will make interesting reading.
    Evens he was ill?
    2/1 his missus was ill?
    3/1 his mum/dad were ill?
    4/1 he was on the pop with Camoron, Brown and others?
    5/1 his dog was ill?
    15/1 he got locked in the Commons toilets?
    18/1 his snout was so deep in the communal trough he simply said **** it?
    20/1 he was so drunk he didn’t hear the division bell?
    25/1 he was in a 5* hotel with his mistress?
    100/1 the field?

  • Diesel Cummins

    Thought Franco died years ago?

  • Diesel Cummins

    I’m with you Lynette, mine is Joint BA(HONS) in History and Politics and not English grammar, unless a post is totally illegible I’ll give the post the bodyswerve, but as you say age and anger does have an effect on what keys I stab at?

  • Diesel Cummins

    Too few to make a difference alas, no doubt the Whips will have their beady eyes on those who defied them in future votes?

  • Diesel Cummins

    Dave I want to have your babies!
    It may be difficult as I’m a 63 years old bald fat man, but what else can I offer? LOL Brilliant post our first 38 Degrees MP?

  • jgas

    Indeed, this is EUSA approved presumably or proof they don’t actually interfere with sovereign nations’ laws, at least not this sort of law well isn’t that nice! no need for dictators anymore.
    Welcome to the coming age of super-flexible employment…tying yourself in pretzel-shaped knots to make ends meet, courtesy of the race to the bottom.
    Pretzel v water cannon anybody?

  • Liz Millar

    All those absentees should be ashamed of themselves as they handed victory to the government on this bill. Including my own MP Danny Alexander. I would like to issue them all with a white feather! Remember that when you vote at next election. I

  • La Bodega Tapas Bar

    I can’t believe – such a huge amount of absentees on such an important issue!

  • Arrol

    Can we actually get to see the points he is going to discuss/argue? It would be something to know what is being said on “our” behalf. I do believe that the conservative minded Members enjoy a silent practice, on a need to know basis. But, who needs to know?

    I tried to contact my nearest Conservative MP recently, and was asked to contact my local MP with any matter of business. The Conservatives apparently do not want to encourage any “outsider” interest, or nurture tender shoots of enquiry. Communication is something I believe in and that does involve an exchange of information. Freedom of information does let the electorate know what is going on; what is being planned, and allows us to exercise our rights as concerned members of society, to encourage those we have elected to put our wishes into practice!

  • Pete

    245 for 245 against? Well it’s just fixed then isn’t it? And they have the audacity to tell us there’s a democracy? Wake up sheeple……it’s no good asking an MP to do anything….democracy doesn’t exist.

  • Anonymous

    So was mine (AGAIN!)

  • Anonymous

    With my MP Alistair Carmichael, Secretary of State for Scotland, he does usually attend.

  • Derek West

    Just remember not to vote Tory or LIb in 2015,this is the worst goverment we have had,including the odious Thatcher.There are some decent MPs but they are as rare as hens teeth.

  • A. Young

    Thank you Michael Connarty

  • LynBassBrimson

    I notice that my member of Parliament, Therese Villiers was absent!!!! as were many other MP’ whose vote could have made an enormous difference to the outcome. Therese Villiers met a representative group in her constituency office a few weeks ago and was well aware of the feelings of her local people and their opposition to this Bill and responded with sympathy. However, she did not take the initiative and bother to vote!. I know her job in Northern Ireland is important but it is the people of Barnet who have put her into Parliament and I feel she has let us down. In general voting, postal votes are counted so why is that not implemented in Parliament when such important Bills are being put forward? This Bill, even with the limited amendments is a fundamental gigantic chip off the democratic rights of all who live here. As a ‘mere voter’ how can I trust anyone who actually makes it to Parliament? It seems that once elected, honourable actions and dedication to the people who put them in their privileged position disappears….so where does the electorate turn?. I have always voted but am now beginning to have sympathy with the very many who do not vote because it seems whatever we do has not effect anyway, so that is why so many people, particularly the young, just do not bother.

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  • Pauline Hardwick

    I am shocked Gordon Brown made himself absent twice during the gagging law. I hope it was for valid reasons. I cant think of anything more import than our fundamental right to free speech, and a living wage. Without these the working man can have no aspirations, he is a mere pawn.

  • Liz Millar

    We can moan forever about our disharmony with the changes this government are when are us brits going to take to the streets to show our disgust. Other countries have been doing it for years but we just moan about it. Sorry but it’s true.

  • Anonymous

    Vote Green.

  • Anonymous

    Why do they get away with being absent? If they can’t make it then suerly they could vote by post/online. We are paying them to work but they can get away with not turning up and still be paid?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s be careful about this postal voting stuff. We don’t want to give them even more excuses not to be at the place we send them to on our behalf. If they could ‘vote’ by post or iPhone, they’d have more time to be lawyers, party hacks and land speculators. At least we know where they are if they have to pitch up and show their faces.

  • christoff

    There is a chronic misunderstanding here about what absenteeism means in a vote like this. There may be any number of reasons why an MP may HAVE to be absent, be it personal reasons or constituent reasons – if you’re heading up to your constituency that night for an important 9am meeting with the people you represent, where would you rather be?

    When MPs have to be absent they use cross party communication to arrange with an MP who is of the opposing opinion to also be absent at the same time, so that the vote remains the same in total as if they had both been present.

    For example, here, if an MP was going to vote against discarding the amendments, but could not be there, they would arrange with someone who was going to vote in agreement with the Conservatives to both be absent. The margins by which a vote goes through or does not remain the same, as two votes have been removed one from each side.

  • Diesel Cummins

    Perhaps you’ll consider who you vote for next time? Though the alternatives hardly inspire one to vote at all, though I dread to say it anything is better than this present administration who would great difficulty organising a party in a brewery, unless there was something in it for them!

  • Diesel Cummins

    I believe it’s called pairing, if say a Labour MP wants a night of debauchery up West and there is an important division in the House he finds himself a Tory opposite number who fancies an evening with his “nanny”, roughly how it works, more or less.
    But still don’t see the reason as we voted for them to represent us and they should be there, all of them, Thatcher used to drag her lot out of sick beds for important votes!

  • christoff

    That the tories and lib dems voted to oppose clauses that would have protected civil liberties and human rights is appalling and should be opposed. That human beings are not capable of doing two things at once or being in two places at once is not something to be complained about.

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