38 Degrees Logo38 Degrees Logo 38 Degrees Logo

Vote on Badger Campaign

July 21st, 2011 by


Environment minister Caroline Spelman has announced plans to shoot tens of thousands of badgers. If her plans go ahead, badgers will start being killed next summer. The government says this will help stop the spread of cow tuberculosis. But key scientists warn badger shoots could make the problem worse.

38 Degrees members have been discussing the plans on the 38 Degrees website and Facebook page.  Many think we should get involved. What do you think? Is the government right to push ahead with killing badgers? Is this an issue we should work on?

The government is consulting on their plans right now – there’s still time to stop them. If we vote “Yes” we can launch a huge petition next Monday. But it won’t work unless enough of us want to get involved. So please share your view now:

Do you think we should work together to stop the government’s plan to kill badgers?

YES
NO

The government says the decision to kill badgers is “science-led”. But leading experts have spoken out against the plans. Oxford academic and zoologist Lord John Krebs led a government inquiry into the link between badgers and cow tuberculosis. He says of this plan to shoot badgers: “I can’t understand how anybody who’s looked at the science would say this is a good idea.”

Animal charity the RSPCA have warned that, “This cull will contribute little or nothing to the long-term goal of eradicating TB nationally. Instead it will wipe out huge numbers of this much-loved species”.

We know that when we decide to work together we can change things. We stopped the sell-off of England’s forests by building the pressure with a huge petition, letters to MPs and woodland protests, until the government was forced to reverse its plans. If we decide to work together to protect badgers, we could play a key role in stopping these plans.

The poll closes this Sunday evening, so have your say now:

Do you think we should work together to stop the government’s plan to kill badgers?

YES
NO

 

Posted in 38 Degrees Blog Posts

Tags: , ,

  • lets be fair

    please present all the arguments and known facts and avoid using emotive pictures to badge the badger cull campaign. An additional picture of a dairy cow being slaughtered would have provided balance

  • Sizsells

    Fox,s cause loads of damage they should also be culled or get the ban on controling them lifted, just like the folks who like to shoot grouse on the gloriouse 12th

  • FoxSpirit

    Please quantify your ‘foxes cause loads of damage’ statement.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_67QOE36QYH2PWR4ZGDG7ACLFHU stephen

    All the dairy cows are slaughtered by farmers anyway. Or did you think the farmers let the old cows into their homes, wrapped in blankets and attended by vets?

  • http://twitter.com/CornwallsVoice MaryAlice Pollard

    Again they decide that the removal of these animals is the way forward. Never has it been proven that badgers are the cause of TB in cattle – I have been hearing about this debate long before I even moved to the UK, from as long back as 1978. If it hasn’t been proven to be absolute without a shadow of doubt, it never will be. Probably just because there is just no link ! How sad it is for our badgers. An animal who is PROTECTED here in the UK. Our government breaks their own law and lets them down. Shame on the UK

  • http://twitter.com/CornwallsVoice MaryAlice Pollard

    Oh please ! There is only one animal that I know of that causes damage to this land, and that is the human one. I could not give a toss about people who raise animals so they and others can have the ‘pleasure’ of shooting them ! Your type need to get into the real world and take a good hard look at who is damaging what and why !

  • Nigelhallworth

    I once came across a badger eating a hedgehog alive. The screams will never leave me.

    I more recently saved a hedgehog from a badger. Brave of me.

    But no more hedgehogs in my garden these days.

    I’m not on the side of the badger.

    Why are badgers protected ? They are very far from endangered. Hedgehogs aren’t protected.

    But I dare say that someone will have had a bad experience form watching a hedgehog eating a slug alive ..

  • http://durhamwt.myzen.co.uk/wp/?p=3060 38 Degree Campaign to stop the Badger Cull : Durham Wildlife Trust

    [...] for launching a petition to stop the badger cull planned to commence in 2012.  Follow the link to 38 Degrees to find out more about the campaign and cast your vote for or against launching the petition against [...]

  • Debreggie1

    i think we should cull some people i know and leave the badgers alone 

  • Anonymous

    On the Guardian
    Would a badger cull be justified?
    Poll closes soon.

  • John-4545

    Please do not blame Badgers for the decline in Hedgehog numbers. I work for wildlife aid, and study human population effects on wildlife ecosystems, and I can tell you now that Badgers are not the reason for their decline. As usual it is Human activity that is having the biggest effects on Hedgehog numbers. A huge reduction in the amount of marginal hedgerows on farmland, which hedgehogs use as shelter and a place to scavenge for food. Also in people’s gardens, a preference for having fences and walls, means that hedgehogs have much smaller teritories and so less chance of finding food. I see large nummbers of hedgehogs every year that have not gained enough weight to go into hybernation. If they are lucky enough to be found, they will be brought into wildlife aid where, they will stay till the following spring. Starvation and cars are the biggest thing effecting Hedgehog numbers NOT badgers.  

  • Jill Gordon

    And replying to lets be fair.  That’s unfortunately true and in fact cows have an average lifespan (if allowed) of around 20 years but most dairy cows are slaughtered at around 3 years old when their milk yield drops.  Not at all right or fair in my opinion.  Another example of how human beings seem to think that animals are provided for their use, rather than having as much right to live their life as all living beings.

  • Clare

    Hedgehogs are protected in some regard – as of this year they are recognised as a UK BAP species.  The decline in hedgehog numbers has nothing to do with badgers…

  • Sickboyedd

    This is a tricky area, if you just stick to the science. You say that there are “key scientists” who warn against the cull, but surely you should present a balanced view and also cite scientists that think the cull will work, and also give an idea as to what the majority consensus view is. 

    Badgers are probably in this predicament because of current intense farming practice, which is probably the cause of so many of our conservation problems, so perhaps a campaign to sort this out, whilst daunting, would be useful?

  • B’o'B

    So when a badger eats a hedgehog you are telling me it has not affect on the hedgehog population, it sure does and as the number of badgers increases the numbers of hedgehog that get eaten by them also increases. Likewise the number of bumble bee nests that badgers dig up also increases, and the number of eggs of ground nesting birds that get eaten by badgers. I have seen it with my own eye over the last 20 years.

  • Lawrence Wright

    Not on organic farms. You are generalising from the most extreme industrial style farms.  You might also say that because most cats and dogs are eventually ‘put down’, it’s OK to kill them out of hand for ‘disease prevention.

  • Gjrenner

    The amount of hedgerows in the UK is growing and the hedges that are removed are removed by developers not farmers. No hedges have been taken out around here for over 30 years, yet in the last 10 years hedgehog numbers have fallen off a cliff as badger numbers have rocketed.

  • Anonymous

    My natural tendency would be against the cull, but at the moment hundreds of cattle are slaughtered earlier than planned because of the disease (it is a horrible disease). It seems that scientists can be found to support either view and are therefore unreliable, leaving a field trial cull a viable option as a control method. For this reason I would have to unwillingly support a field trial in a limited and well defined area. If TB rates were then found to be improved we have an answer… which unfortunately leads to another problem for the wider UK. If TB rates do not improve then the badger is cleared.
    Either way, not a happy situation.

  • Lawrence Wright

    This is a biased consultation.  You set the tone by showing a lovely picture of a healthy badger apparently sniffing the flowers.  A photo of a badger suffering from bTB would send a very different message.

    I am a farmer and do not want my beautiful cattle or healthy badgers to be killed: but like cattle, badgers suffer horribly from bTB and can be very infectious even before they are visibly sick. A badger with kidney lesions can excrete up to 300,000 cfu of bacteria in just 1ml of urine; a mere 70 bacteria from a single drop of infected badger urine can provoke a positive skin test reaction (which would cause DEFRA to order the killing of the affected cattle), while just 70 colony forming bTB bacteria are needed to infect a cow.  It seems madness to try to control bTB by killing cattle while leaving other infected and disease carrying animals to spread the infection.

    Surely it would be more constructive to campaign for government support for the development for effective bTB vaccine for cattle and badgers to be used instead of the current disease control by death.

    For more insights please visit the bTB pages on http://www.warmwell.com – and please do not trust the pronouncements of Sir John Krebs!

  • Marctorley

    Sorry guys- for once I find myself opposed to something 38 Degrees is campaigning about (this is a first)- one of the things that upsets me most is the assumption many make that those who work on farms or in the countryside are people who dislike or are cruel to animals.  Many of us are still recovering from the horrors of foot and mouth of having to witness and smell thousands of animals killed and burned- and bTB while not as bad, is up there with awful sights of animals suffering.
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but please- the moment this is reduced to ‘man is bad and animals are good’ or ‘dairy cows are going to die anyway’ or whatever- we suddenly walk away from the INTELLIGENCE that is the trademark of so many of 38 Degrees campaigns. The cull needs to happen- it really does.  No one is happy about this, but somethings those are the breaks.

  • Tom Rigby

    Sorry but even the Badger Trust believe badgers are a common source of bTB in cattle (lest they would not be claiming that the perturbation of badgers will cause more cases in cattle).

  • Mj
  • Tom

    Useful article by Ben Goldacre in the Guardian about the science behind badger culling:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/22/badger-cull-trials-cattle-tb

    It would seem that the picture is somewhat complex – there is some evidence that culling works but is only just justifiable financially (i.e. not taking into account moral arguments against killing badgers) and only proven to work on a small scale. Further research is needed…

  • Freerangevicar

    I’ve been closely involved with this one. The difficulty is that the scientific views are divided. Professor Krebs on one side, Sir David King on the other. Basically Krebs report said that a cull would not be cost effective – not that it wouldn’t control  TB. The governent propsoal puts the cost of the cull largely on farmers & so takes away Krebs’ objection.
    Hundreds of thousands of cattle are being slaughtered each year costing the taxpayer £100million near enough. The finnacial and emotional costs to farmers are significantly greater. I’ve spoken with famers who talk about watching their  in-calf cows being shot and watching the unborn calves kicking inside their dead mothers for what seemed like forever – while diseased badgers remain uncontrolled spreading the illness. 
    There is no vaccine for cattle & the only vaccine for badgers has to be injected – not easy in a wild animal – and that does nothing about the countless badgers who are already diseased.

  • John-4545

    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about “BoB” so I am now going to bow out of this argument now. People like you probably also link the deline in songbird populations to the amount of magpies. I suggest you take a good look at the science involved and ignore your spurious correlations.

  • Phil

    Those of you that are arguing that Badgers are not responsible for the sharp decline in hedgehog numbers need to listen to some true conservationists…instead of listening to the propaganda & spin from some of these so called “animal charities”!

    I was recently on an estate, Here in the south west, that is owned & run by a true conservationist… It was stated very clearly on our guided tour that they have not seen a hedgehog for several years !  They went on to say that it would appear that if you have Badgers…you don’t have hedgehogs !

  • paul

    Lets be honest about a couple of things
    Firstly, dairy farmers see their animals as production units nothing else.Modern dairy cows are essentially milked until they do not produce sufficient yield and then slaughtered.For cows to produce milk they need to have calfs.These are removed from their mothers shortly after birth and if the calfs are male they are with only a few exceptions slaughtered.I personally don’t think farmers who veiw other living creatures in this way are the right people to make decisions on the wholesale killing of another species.
    Let’s look at how many farmers are cheating the current TB testing and movement controls and spreading the disease as a consequence.
     Secondly,the 10 year £50 million badger culling trial was quite clear that badger culling would have only a limited effect on Bovine TB and may well spread the disease furthe And would not be cost effective.
    The vast majority of badgers killed in any ‘cull’ would be disease free,the suffering inflicted on these creatures by open shooting at night will be enormous.
    Surely any civilised society should look at all other options and give them time to work E.G develop vaccines for cattle,have widespread badger vaccination,have a Bovine TB test that is more accurate and taken more frequently,have tougher controls on cattle movements and look at ways to minimise badger and other animals coming into contact with cattle
    .As for the decline in hedgehog numbers mentioned by Phil I think it’s a bit more complicated than his ‘true conservationists’ badger theory.I’m not sure it was a badger driving the car that killed the three dead hedgehogs I’ve seen recently on roads near my home! With that logic any carnivorous species deserves to be wiped out,why stop at badgers.

  • Ian

    The simple reason that badgers have TB is that because the population is too high (anyone who thinks they are endangered just does not know what they are talking about) and diseases are passed around to easily.  The reason for them being over populated is that they are protected which means there is no control of their population and as we have killed off their natural preditors it is the responibility of humans to help control their population.  This can easily be acheived by allowing farmers and licenced pest controlers to shoot badgers (waiting for the hate mail right now but bare with me) to control the population.  My sugestion is that the protected status of badgers is removed but badger baiting or the digging up of badgers would be illegal and that their would be a restricted period where control was allowed.  This would reduce the population to a healthy level but would not eradicate the badgers as if you look at the fox as an example farmers have free range to control the fox but it is doing very well thank you.  If you want some control with this then to control badgers a farmer would have to register as part of his cross compliance or of their envirmental scheme so that the local population could be monitored.

    Simple cost effective and the general health of the badgers will improve

  • Anthony Bush

    Paul, how many dairy farmers do you know? I have been one for 35 years and none of us likes losing a cow. I am too upset to be present if the vet has to put one down. We have three thriving badgers setts and long may they remain healthy. I have certainly come across the shells of demolished hedgehogs. It has to be true that left unchecked the population of badgers may increase. Any interference with the balance of nature – like protecting badgers, (which needs to be done to prevent cruel badger baiting, etc) – may mean too many and the loss of other creatures 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IDLYZQIJI5P5WEIJQIXVZMMTQA Docrichie

    Sadly it’s not just badgers.  Concentration on them (because they’re big and easy to spot) has taken the attention off the widespread prevalence of the bTB bacillus in the countryside generally, particularly in the south-west with its moist mild climate.  Deer, rats, cats and many more are susceptible and carry the infection.  What’s the answer?  Kill everything that gets in our way?  Vaccination of cattle has been the only sensible way forward for 25 years, just as we ourselves are vaccinated, and we need to tell the EU that in the strongest terms.

  • Jzzzzzedwards

    Development of a vaccination is still a long way off. Meanwhile this disease is spreading and both cattle and badgers are suffering. Badgers show the worst symptoms including open sores throughout their body. Something must be done to reduce the spread of disease now for the sake of them too. When vaccines are developed for cattle of course they will be used.

  • Jzzzzzedwards

    I so agree with this. We know longer see hedgehogs around here or ground nesting birds. Badgers have increased dramatically and I have seen evidence of bees nests destroyed by their digging along the hedges. They eat the eggs of birds and they also compete with hedgehogs for food.

  • Jzzzzedwards

    We live in a very rural area and used to see hedgehogs in our yards and fields. Farming has not intensified since that time here…. in fact the surrounding 1000 Ha has been converted to organic farming. Traffic is not a problem. There are 100′s acres of woodland and miles of dense hedges. The only noticeable change has been the vast increase in the badger population. They have even started digging up bluebells in the woods.

  • Clare

    “They went on to say that it would appear that if you have Badgers…you don’t have hedgehogs”.  Yes, that’s true – because hedgehogs are known to avoid sites with heavy badger populations/lots of setts.

  • John-4545

    Well I’m sure that “true conservationist’s” random statement, is all the proof we need. Cause Badger populations to plumet by shooting them, and then we will all start seeing hedgehogs in our Gardens again; even though mine is walled in and I live next to a main road. But I’m sure your “true conservationist” knows best.

  • Phil

    Have you one shred of evidence to back up your claim that shooting will inflict enormous suffering ???
    What about the stress & suffering involved with capturing wild animals in cages…& then injecting them.

    The only answer to the bTB problem in the Badger population is to cull the area’s where up to 70% of Badgers are already infected with this horrible disease…& administer an oral Vaccine to Badgers in areas where Badger numbers are far fewer & the population is relatively free from the Disease!
    Done correctly this will Not only eradicate bTB – it will mean a much more healthy & sustainable Badger population!

    The legislation, in July 1973, that lead to the Badger being a completely protected species was a complete over-raction !
    Of course Badger baiting was cruel & had to be stopped !…but making it illegal to keep badger numbers under control should never have been allowed.

    And just remember who it was that was responsible for the vast majority of Badger baiting ?
    It was gangs of criminals & low-life scum coming out from the cities!
     

  • Phil

    Anthony.

    you say  “left unchecked the population of Badgers may increase”.

    Well, On Monday it will be 38 years to the day since the introduction of The Badgers Act!
    How about The Badger Trust mark this anniversary by openly stating what the current UK Badger Population Totals.
    I am not talking about the figures Mr. Reedy used in a very recent TV interview…we want the up to date & accurate figures please  !!!

  • Paul

    In reply to Anthony.I admit I don’t know any dairy farmers,however,I don’t se ethe relevance of that.My point was about the dairy industry and how cattle are treated to maximise profit.Their lives are shortened dramatically,and their calfs are removed at best and killed at worst.If farmers can treat their own animals in such a way I don’t believe they are best placed to decide on the lives of other creatures.Also I don’t understand the comment about interfering with the balance of nature.Is it a natural existence for a dairy cow?How is protecting badgers from the worst excesses of man ‘interfering with nature’?I think the hedgehog issue is a total red herring as we could go through thosands of species that kill other species and we presumably don’t want to cull all of those?
     In reply to Phil I don’t think it takes a great leap to assume that the ‘crack’ marksmen that farmers will hire to shot free running badgers at night are unlikely to kill instantly every badger they try to shoot.Unfortunately,it isn’t a video game or a hollywood movie where life is taken painlessly.If you want evidence then I suggest you look into research on the shooting of other animals/birds and see how many of them suffer painful and drawn out deaths.And lets remember we are not talking about killing infected badgers we are talking about killing ALL badgers even if they are perfectly healthy in a  specific area. 

  • http://twitter.com/FConclusion Owen Lort-Phillips

    Are you sure about that…? 3 years … really. Most cows produce their first calf aged 2 and only achieve peak production by the 3rd or 4th lactation – ie 5-6 years old. Older for jerseys. The average age of my cows in my herd is 7 and my oldest cow is 17 – still milking. Important to get your facts right i think.

  • Anonymous

    See http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/22/badger-cull-trials-cattle-tb on the evidence for culling.

    Perhaps it shouldn’t go ahead but if it does we need to make sure good data are collected to see whether culling is worth it.

  • Gwen

    This is the only sensible and humane way to deal with this entire situation, but you can bet your bottom dollar that it won’t happen – why? – because it would cost money, and no-one would be willing to pay, certainly not the dairy farmers – none of whom have any respect for animals anyway – and not the Government, who would rather spend time looking for more ways to fiddle the books with their expenses!

  • Jane

    Please don’t think this is just about dairy farmers. All cattle farms are affected but the worst affected are possibly those that rely on selling breeding stock and for which having a bTB reactor means that they are prevented from making an income. These are often more extensive or upland farms and many of your points do not apply. 
    With regard to hedgehogs, I am sorry you have no worries about their plight in these areas but there are many people who do.

  • Ross

    “Lets look at how many farmers are cheating the current TB testing and movement controls and spreading the disease as a consequence.”

    HOW MANY? Have youn one shred of evidence that any farmers are in any way avoiding the current testing programme? If you knew anything about how DEFRA and Animal Health monitor and record the movement of livestock you would understand that it is virtually impossible to avoid testing.

    No farmer is going to collude with another to illegally move animals carrying TB, or do you think there is a group of nasty farmers who are moving diseased cattle around the country in the dead of night to spread the disease, blaming their handywork on those gentle, wise, smoking jacket wearing badgers that you know all about from watching the animals of farthing wood.

  • Guest

    Badgers can’t be blamed, they are beautiful British NATIVE species and must be protected. All because a few farmers throughs a tantrum that his cows are ill, if their cows keep dying then farm sheep instead, they get to keep their business and badgers don’t die, everybody wins.

  • Jane

    This is untrue, most cows don’t have their first calf until 2.5 to 3 years old so if they were slaughtered at that age they would never produce any milk …. not very profitable for a dairy farm!

  • RAnders

    There have been two recorded incidents this year of farmers being caught switching ear tags on cattle in order to avoid bovine TB controls. One resulted in a conviction in Powys and one was discovered by Gloucestershire trading standards authority. DEFRA has admitted it doesn’t know the true extent of this kind of problem. I’d call that a very clear shred of evidence that farmers are indeed cheating current TB testing and movement controls..

  • Rachael

    Goodness. How amazing given that all ecological studies confirm that around 70% of a badger’s diet is actually worms, and the remainder is almost all fruit, insects, etc. From the picture you paint I’m surprised the badger has any room for worms and fruit after all those hedgehogs. Those who study hedgehogs document a foraging nature, with evidence easily found by grubbing marks. Those who have another agenda seem to prefer to picture badgers as vicious rampaging predators, How strange…

  • Ian Howie

    I come down on the side of Prof Sir David King. I believe the Krebs trial was flawed and the culling in the cull areas was far from what should have been achieved, partly due to the cull being sabotaged, but also due to the design of the trial and the methodology used to conduct it. It has been subsequently shown that the figures quoted for the reduction of TB in cattle in the cull areas has turned out far higher than the figures quoted originally in the Krebs trial results. 

    Data produced years ago in the Thornbury Trial show that reducing the badger population as has also been shown in the trials in Southern Ireland, confirms that the the incidence of TB in cattle cannot be achieved without reducing the number of badgers. 

    And the financial information that has been produced to challange the cost affectivenes of a cull, has been produced  by some creative accounting and certainly is not a true reflection of the impact it has on a farm which receives no compensation for consquential losses.

  • Guest 88

    Cattle are culled according to TB testing as laid out in law. Farmers and the national coffers lose out massively in this process. There has to be a balance in society between the protection of the natural environment and the production of foodstuffs required by the country and the world. A targeted badger cull on this basis in specific areas of the UK should not be prevented. Evidence of a causative link between TB in badgers and TB in cattle is an area I cannot profess on.

  • Anonymous

    Hedgehogs main threat is loss of habitat. Now I can’t possibly imagine what caused that. Unless it’s intensive farming? Once you take away habitat, yes predators can have an impact. But I suspect cars have a bigger one.

  • Anonymous

    No, there is a vaccine, and a test for cattle. It’s the EU that’s the problem. Not sure why farmers aren’t lobbying them instead? And all this rubbish about badgers suffering terribly deaths from tb is totally unsubstantiated by any wildlife rehabilitation centre or badger group in the country (and indeed scientific study at Woodchester Park). How is it only farmers know all about it?

  • Anonymous

    Erm, because you can’t accurately count badgers? (Yet another problem with the proposed cull).  According to Natural England there are an estimated 190,000. You lot want to kill nearly half of them. Given the (far higher) numbers of deer, rats, voles etc etc that also carry tb, what exactly are you hoping to achieve?

  • Anonymous

    The problem is, though, that you aren’t implementing cattle controls first are you? I’ve seen the videos on Youtube of farmers at market ignoring the disinfectant. Of the Animal Health worker furious because you are mixing infected with uninfected. I know what the RBCT recommended (yes culling can reduce the INCREASE in btb, but not the overall levels, something else is still causing that increase) and therefore they recommended you deal with the main issue. Cattle. The RBCT recommended 30 cattle measures, none of which you seem to like. In other EU countries, one cow on a farm goes down with tb they are all culled. Depopulation. This is because the test is so inaccurate they need to be sure. Here you leave animals that don’t show up on the skin test to cause repeat breakdowns. To spread the disease on at market. You get your house in order first, THEN we’ll look at whether we want to kill native wildlife for profit .http://bit.ly/pGtAbJ http://bit.ly/pj2c56

  • WhiteSn7

    Baited by dogs for pleasure,now a cull! Human intertference in our wildlife is already taking its toll.Not to far off our children and grandchildren will only see our declining wildlife in books.Instead of finding a solution/vaccination the easiest option is wipe them almost out.This will not stop T.B.It will continue until those that be deem complete eradication of badgers.Then of course another animal will get the blame for spreading T.B. Swiftly followed by another cull.There is a island of the mainland in Scotland.Has no Badgers,never has had Badgers.Yet they have T.B. in their cattle.They may not be endangerd now!! But it will not be long before they are.Still the government will go ahead with the cull and many more no doubt.This  cull will go ahead anyway.But only time will show that no thought went into this! But who are we that care about our wildlife and voice our opinions on anything.The governments/law do as they wish.Everything we do now/interfere with will come back to haunt us.Nature sees to itself! Well it did!!

  • Andy

    What is needed is badger-friendly milk. If the supermarkets had a brand available that you could buy that guarenteed that it came from areas/countries that didn’t kill badgers customers could vote with their purse. Faced with a massive drop in income I suspect that farmers would stop seeing killing badgers as the solution and move on to strategies that actually work. (Since all the scientific evidence is that killing badgers will actually spread the disease)

  • Jon

    Wouldn’t the money be better spent trying to find a vaccine that is effective? farmers pump litres of drugs into their STOCK over its lifetime, a syringe-ful more of a vaccine that could prevent wholesale slaughter of a non-stock creature would be a better solution. Some of the TB is thought to be passed on by badgers coming into contact with cattle feed, better husbandry of said feed would also be a start to a solution as most of the dairy farms I have been on are a total mess!!!

  • Adventurous Chick

    this is barbaric and cruel! please rethink the action you are about to take