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We can’t leave it to the politicians to sort this mess out

June 8th, 2009

It feels like politics in the UK has lots its way. The Labour government which inspired such hope twelve years ago is no longer trusted and torn by conflict. The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats have also had their share of scandal. Last week most of us chose not to vote for any of them, whilst the BNP profited from the crisis to make alarming gains including two MEPs. Right now we can’t rely on the Westminster parties to sort this crisis out on their own. But People Power can force their hand. There’s never been more need for us to come together to demand politicians properly sort out our political system.

In two weeks almost 6000 people have got involved with 38 Degrees. Our campaign for a recall law has moved the issue right up the agenda, with party leaders now agreeing to “look into” the idea. This isn’t yet a victory, but it is progress – recall started being talked about seriously as people started signing our petition. This shows that we do care about sorting politics out, and that by working together we can force politicians to respond. What should we do next? We were planning to hand our recall petition in this week, but events have moved fast and we feel we should decide together what our next steps are.

Our Recall petition, now over 4000 names strong, is definitely something we need to build on.  My view is that the best time to deliver it is when the Party Leaders meet to discuss reforms. This meeting has been promised, but a date hasn’t be confirmed yet. After that I think we should probably turn up the heat on individual MPs, and make sure they’re sending a clear message up to their leaders that a real recall law, that puts power to hold our local MP to account firmly in the hands of the people, is an important part of the solution.  It feels like this campaign is still building momentum – what we’ve done so far has put the issue on the agenda, but more pressure is needed to make sure the positive talk is converted into real action.

Polls tell us that three quarters of us now believe that big changes are needed to the UK political system, more than ever before [1]. The current crisis presents us with an opportunity to demand changes which could make politics better, for good. But what are the most important changes to focus on? Should we keep all our attention on demanding a Recall Law that would mean politicians couldn’t ignore voters between General Elections? Should we campaign for changes to the voting system to ensure parliament better reflects who we voted for? Or should we be doing something else entirely? We’re most powerful when we work together, so we need to decide together what we work on.

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  • Free the Westminster 635!

    ...from lobbyists, big business and the power of the national press - change to Direct Democracy: binding referendums at the lowest possible level.

    Power to the People!
  • karen
    I have only just found out about this site when i was watching the evening news ???? i really hope that thousands more took note of your website ....... ive read quite alot of your comments & intend to reply to them with my own views when its not so late at night and i'm sleepy !! truth is i'm so fed up with how this country is being run by our so called representatives in goverment ?? and all the other things people have mentioned in these blogs, one thing i do know is we all need to step up and be recognised time for change time yes maybe for a revolution ?? I WOULD- WOULD YOU ????
  • Make transparent the stranglehold that corporations have on Government and society.

    Get rid of the laws protecting corporations from prosecution.
  • ELIZABETH
    I think that the press should get invoved with this petition now,

    I suspect that you have already approached them so why are'nt they on board, especially the Telegraph.
  • Sarah Ricketts - 38 Degrees
    We are getting a lot of response from our poll: What next for 38 Degrees? Here are some comments;

    ‘Political system should and must be addressed ASAP so the British people can have confidence again.’ – Iain, Invercylde

    ‘Electoral reform must be at the heart of changes to our political system.’ Steve, Suffolk

    ‘Changing the way we do politics will enable us to then concentrate on the issues relevant to ordinary people - it has to come first, and with it, hopefully a more active participation in politics.’ Sophie, Gloucestershire

    ‘As an employee of the Royal Mail I find it quite deplorable that this current Government and most probably the next one feel the need to part privatise the Royal Mail in pursuit of a quick short term gain, despite a large percentage of the UK population wishing for it to remain wholly within the realm's of the Government and the public sector.’ – Rob, Bradford

    ‘We need an excellent political system before we can adequately deal with the everyday issues.’ – Joseph

    ‘Of all options I would prefer to see a Recall Law put in place and preferably before too many people see voting as a complete waste of time.’ – Robert, Nottinghamshire

    ‘I think that it is good to have issues coming up and in the pipeline that 38 degrees will campaign in, but it is important to ensure that what is current – ‘recall’ - is the main focus and is hit home until the change required is successful.’ – Michael, Penzance

    ‘Why suggest just one "citizens' jury"? Surely if we seek to introduce more participatory and deliberative elements to our democracy we should use a form that is itself deliberative and participatory - i.e. a collection of citizens' assemblies up and down the country.’ – George, Bath

    ‘Let's sort out the long awaited reform of the Lords’ – Bernard, Buckinghamshire.

    ‘Campaign for transparency - from expenses to the law making process.’ Paul, Liverpool

    ‘As part of the parliamentary reforms being demanded to the political system, all parties and parliament should be bound to prioritise the imminent crisis of climate change.' Peter, Bedford
  • Jonathan
    Proportional representation (PR) is more likely to bring in minority parties (which is why the Lib Dems have been wanting it introduced) - Unfortunately PR would also result in parties such as the BNP gaining more seats (MEPs are elected by PR).

    Perhaps a better way to organise Parliament would be to select all MPs using the Jury system. This would have the advantage that it would do away with any claims that women / gays / ethnic minorities / etc. were underrepresented in Government, and ensure everyone equally represented.
  • Piers
    I have already signed John Rowles' petition and strongly encourage every one else to do so.

    As a longtime member of Charter 88 (now Unlock Democracy), I have been a suppporter of almost any system of PR (whatever the faults therein) to break the stranglehold maintained by the two largest political parties in the UK. This would also help to limit the unseen and underhand power wielded by the lobby groups with vested interests in maintaining the status quo.

    However, one significant power is already available in the form of the Sustainable Communities Act (promoted and virtually forced through Parliament by Charter 88 / UD) which is intended to be used by Local Authorities to wrest power from Westminster and enable local action and funding in place of dictation from "above". Please urge your Local Authority to use this Act for all their worth to this end, if they aren't already doing so.
  • Please support my Downing Street petition:

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/PRepresent/

    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to on the day of
    the next general election hold a binding referendum on whether
    to change to a more proportional electoral system. This should
    be drawn up by a large jury of randomly selected citizens,
    given the time and information to deliberate on what voting
    system and other changes would make Parliament more accountable
    to citizens.

    This petition specifically demands that a system of PR is
    decided by a jury of the people.
  • Chris
    MPs and all our other elected representatives need to be reminded of just that - that they were elected to represent us. There needs to be more transparency in how they spend their time (ref Tony Blair and how much he is doing for Sedgefield at the moment) and an opportunity to express dissatisfaction if voters believe they are not doing the job we require of them.
  • Jonathan
    Two things really surprised me recently:

    One was that our MPs could suddenly produce cheques for huge sums of money, to repay the 'oversights' that had been pointed out to them recently (I know I couldn't write a cheque for several thousand pounds tomorrow, and I doubt many other people could either).

    The second was that the UK has more Politicians than countries such as India - which has a population many times the size of ours.

    Therefore, it seems obvious that the Government needs to be stripped down to the bare minimum, where it is *only* involved with protecting the basics that its citizens need to get by in life (things like Education, Healthcare, Defence of the country and making sure that people don't get cheated/ripped off etc.)

    As a result of all the Government's recent meddling in other countries politics, encouraging the creation of 'non jobs', taking part in illegal wars and supporting the financial services sector above any other, the UK has being left with crippling debts - which will all have to be paid back at some point.

    So, whichever party wins the next election - unless an organization such as 38 Degrees can keep reminding the Government of its many failures, and continue to spell out that there are better/simpler ways to run the country – future Governments _will_ conveniently forget about the massive amounts of guaranteed 'Bonuses' and 'Expenses' that have flooded into Bankers and MPs pockets; so that they can continue paying them in some form or other.

    I predict that, unless there is a change, the claim will continue to be the same hackneyed 'lack of money has forced us to cut investment in public services', whilst 'higher/more taxes are needed to bring in yet another layer of bureaucracy'. Which will in turn impose even more complicated regulations on businesses, the expense of which will simply get passed on to ordinary people like you and me - who cannot claim expenses or pass our costs along to somebody else.
  • kath
    stringent rules need to be brought in from the top in parliament, down to the county councils, through to local councils all need to be transparent!
  • ATFlynn "Norfolk's Mutineer"
    In this day and age, and that includes the fact that Westminster has abandoned the Sovereignty of this Country, we should be using the technology available to remove the power of Westminster to levy Taxation.
    It is a basic and simple manoeuvre to change the way you work and are paid. And recently the Guardian 'Paper published an article entitled, "Tax Gap", illustrating how simple it is to quite legally avoid paying direct Taxation to Westminster or HMRC.
    I suggest that the Taxpayers, on a County by County structure and using the services of the Parish and Town Council's, create their own system of Public Service Funding.
    To prevent the abuse of the Taxpayers money, the Welfare State should change and become the Welfare Society. In addition, all Taxpayers who do not wish to pay the grotesque amount of money that is paid every month to Brussels, that is, on the first day of every month and again on the ninteenth day of every month, can refuse to.
    If any of this is of interest, I will continue with the progress I have made and the reception it has received from my local County Council.
    Regards, ATFlynn, "Norfolk's Mutineer"
  • Democracy means:Government by the people for the people and tolerating minority views; if it has changed its meaning it should have another name.

    We don't need leaders.We need referendums,all done on email.policy decided according to the results,and the civil service to administrate,as usual.

    Whilst we still have elected representtives [mostly a vested interest group in politics only to get re-elected] we should engage with them and ask them what they are going to do in parliament to represent our views,asking for a reply which we are entitled to by law;letting them know if they dont ,we won't vote for them next time.
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